General Football 23/24

[Irishnev]

Great work

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[Norbs]

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[Buzzo]

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[Irishnev]

Great work

https://twitter.com/westham/status/1552053861233442816

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[Doc_Piptorious]

Did they not suspend their players after they were charged though?


A worse look would be outing players, or anyone for that matter, and treating them like they were guilty before any charges were brought.

What if the club suspends a player, his names gets out and he gets called a rapists, then something comes to light that he did nothing?

He will still have the stigma of being called a rapist sticking to him and people tend to remember the accusations a lot longer than any retractions.


Now if he does get charged and if he is guilty then I hope he is named, shamed and spends a long time in prison, but without even a hint of any damning evidence (like the recordings of what Greenwood did) and formal charging by the police, punishing someone publically does not sit well.


Rape is a horrific crime. A truly repulsive and cowardly thing to do to another person and it is something that is not punished harshly enough imho, however being wrongly accused of it is something that could destroy lives as well.

Better to wait a little longer and be correct in charging/convicting a person, then to rush in and potentially be wrong or create a loophole for a guilty individual to exploit.

Greenwood is out on bail though and there was video and audio put up by the woman who said he allegedly attacked/assaulted/raped/threatened to kill her.

Sigurdsson is also allegedly on bail.

Not quite sure how the law works in the UK but I assume if you need to be released on bail that means the police had enough evidence tht required bail conditions to be set and met.

The London player by all reports was released after questioning with no bail conditions being set.


Either way I would want there to be clear evidence and clear police involvement (by that enough to show that the police have pressed charges or the police insisted on bail conditions being needed) before a player gets suspended let alone named.

It is too serious an accusation to just punish people on the accusation alone and too serious to potentially ruin a person's life if they were in fact innocent and too serious to risk ruining the case for a victim if an early action against the perpetrator ended up with the perpetrator getting a lesser or no sentence.

Like it or not there has to be a presumption of innocence until guilt is proven to at least a reasonable degree if not completely. I phrased that line on purpose to take into account civil actions.

Have totally changed my mind on this after the victim came out and posted her side of the story along with pics/videos on her twitter account in recent days.

The entire thing stinks of a cover up to protect the player and also the fact he will not be charged for what he did is just wrong.

And the twitter idiots defending the player on the grounds that if the woman is in a relationship with a man then forced sex/rape and assault does not count can go do one.

The poor woman should be getting support and help and not twitter trolls saying rape only counts if done to to someone the rapist did not know beforehand.

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Who are you refering too? Not seen anything related to this recently

[Doc_Piptorious]

Who are you refering too? Not seen anything related to this recently

London based footballer who was arrested but not charged a month or so ago for sexual assualt/rape.

Is now confirmed to be an Arsenal player as the victim went public this week via her twitter account with a lot of details and pics of what was done to her and she named her partner and the man who did it.

Seems he cannot be charged on a technicality rather than through him not having done it. UK laws were changed days after the alleged rape and
his entire defence was not that he did not rape her but rather that the law allowing him to be charged had not been signed into law in time.

The law in question is the one that allows UK police to charge a rapist for a rape that occured outside of the UK when both parties live in the UK.

She even put up videos and screenshots of his agent (with the agent's phone number not edited out ) contacting her to threaten her to stay quiet about it. She also put up screenshots/video of her scrolling through chat messages with the player, along with the full phone number of who she was in the chat with.

[ChesterDave]

Wagatha Christie

Vardy lost her libel claim. Lost a load of cash, destroyed her reputation, threw her agent u der the bus. Good work Rebekah

[ChesterDave]

She even put up videos and screenshots of his agent (with the agent's phone number not edited out ) contacting her to threaten her to stay quiet about it. She also put up screenshots/video of her scrolling through chat messages with the player, along with the full phone number of who she was in the chat with.

Reading some Tweets in general and some of the replies she got. People are awful!

[Doc_Piptorious]

Reading some Tweets in general and some of the replies she got. People are awful!

Some of the replies are disgusting tbh.


A lot of them seem to be suggesting that if she was raped it was her own fault for being on holiday with the alleged rapist in the first place.

Some of the messages she got from the player's agent and from what is said to be the player's phone are disgusting too.

The one with him asking her if she expected him to wait for her to wake up before sticking his dick in her face/mouth is

[ChesterDave]

England Women win the Euros

Can we now put that song to bed instead of reviving it every 2 years?

[Fredo]

Iconic moment for the sport here.

[Rich]

Their game management in that last 5 mins was brilliant

[Fredo]

Incredible scenes

[Tatterdemalion]

Looks like an enjoyable day out for a family. Massive crowd and very diverse from an age and gender perspective. The men's game has a few things to think about there - huge prices, toxic atmosphere - I'm sure there are lots of parents who will prefer to take their kids to a womens' game rather than a mens' game. Never been much of an England fan, but well done England.