Yevhen Konoplyanka [Sevilla]

[Pablo]

This is so odd. If what we're saying is true couldn't we hold them to the deal but just conclude it when the transfer market re-opens? That's if we still want him of course.

[vlahka]

Theres no chance we'll be back for him. The club will have proper first choices to go after. Not dead ends. I never wanted him. His names too silly.

[Norbs]

Lets low ball them with a £2million offer- **** them, like they ****ed us

I bet that'd leave them quaking in their boots.

van Persie showed that even with a little bit left on your contract you can still command near to market value. If we really wanted to **** them then we should deposit £2m in the player's bank account and tell him to hold out for a Bosman.

[Patricks_Berger]

I cant imagine anyone would transfer money without a signed contract of sale

My business sometimes involves multi-million dollar transactions

I could not foresee a time when I would send funds for something without a signed contract of sale

With money-laundering regulations in the UK banks are now asking us to submit an invoice and contract as verification of what we are actually sending money for

Its the same when you buy something like a house, you draw up a contract all parties sign it and the deal is completed when funds are transferred

The claims and counter-claims from both sides (us & Dnipro) make little or no sense

Yes but in these circumstances they would have needed to have the money in the Ukraine and read to go, outside of normal business hours, at a moments notice.

The way to do this is, as has been said, is to use an intermediary - either a local bank or lawyer who holds the money in a local account subject to an undertaking that he will not transfer it to Dnipro untill such time as an agreement is reached and the papers signed.

That way they can have the money on standbye right up until the deadline. If they waited until the papers were signed before getting the money lined up they could run out of time.

When they are talking about transferring the money what I suspect they mean is transferring it to the appointed intermediary.

[Lecter]

I have heard rumours that Bosman rules etc are not applicable in Ukraine

Is Bosman an EU Law or has it also been incorporated into UEFA / FIFA's regulations

If Bosman/Webster rulings etc.. are incorporated in UEFA/FIFA's regulations on contracts then (and I seem to remember reading that this was the case), then I'm not sure where Dnipro would stand

[meffin]

I bet that'd leave them quaking in their boots.

van Persie showed that even with a little bit left on your contract you can still command near to market value. If we really wanted to **** them then we should deposit £2m in the player's bank account and tell him to hold out for a Bosman.

Yea, when you are selling to a rival who you know need him and have money...

[Lecter]

Yes but in these circumstances they would have needed to have the money in the Ukraine and read to go, outside of normal business hours, at a moments notice.

The way to do this is, as has been said, is to use an intermediary - either a local bank or lawyer who holds the money in a local account subject to an undertaking that he will not transfer it to Dnipro untill such time as an agreement is reached and the papers signed.

That way they can have the money on standbye right up until the deadline. If they waited until the papers were signed before getting the money lined up they could run out of time.

When they are talking about transferring the money what I suspect they mean is transferring it to the appointed intermediary.

Yeah it would go into an escrow holding account that is a given but I'd still be expecting a signed deal before disbursement of funds

I think its PR frankly from both sides and its basically who to believe because neither of them make much sense

Still that said I'd always take the excuses of somebody on the payroll of an American billionaire hedge fund investor over those on the payroll of an ex-Soviet bloc billionaire oligarch wouldnt you

[Pablo]

I bet that'd leave them quaking in their boots.

van Persie showed that even with a little bit left on your contract you can still command near to market value. If we really wanted to **** them then we should deposit £2m in the player's bank account and tell him to hold out for a Bosman.

You didn't read the article did you? He has a £12.5m release clause, so he can command £12.5m and no more

Anyone wonder how we repeatedly seem to find out about these release clauses and trigger them?

[PTP]

Theres no chance we'll be back for him. The club will have proper first choices to go after. Not dead ends. I never wanted him. His names too silly.

couldn't agree more...er....Vlahka?

[Exiled_red]

You didn't read the article did you? He has a £12.5m release clause, so he can command £12.5m and no more

Anyone wonder how we repeatedly seem to find out about these release clauses and trigger them?

Well presumably we didn't find out about his release clause if we are to believe the reports that we bid £15m

[Pablo]

Again read the article, we bid 15 million euros, not pounds (basically his release clause).

[baitman]

I cant imagine anyone would transfer money without a signed contract of sale

My business sometimes involves multi-million dollar transactions

I could not foresee a time when I would send funds for something without a signed contract of sale

maybe in future we will be using paypal

[Boogs]

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[Exiled_red]

Again read the article, we bid 15 million euros, not pounds (basically his release clause).

Ah it seems I'm reading the wrong articles or sections of the press are getting it wrong

[Bender]

iktor Fagerström @ViktorFagerLFC
So we would have got Konoplyanka for £12.3m. What a bargain.