Sexist Scudamore

[Roboklopp]

Laters. Manc loving cunt.

[dom9]

However repugnant we may think what he said is, as far as I know he hasn't broken any law. What may have been illegal is the theft and use of private correspondence.

I hate the public interest argument for invasion of privacy. I think the bar needs to be set very high to justify invasion of privacy, such as breaking the law. Not being a hypocrit. Let's be honest just about everyone is two faced and do and say things in private that they would never do or say in public.

It's a shame, no one is perfect, but many good people avoid high profile jobs and political positions out of fear for the invasion of privacy by media to satisfy a nosey public who then justify it because it's 'in the public interest'.

And then everyone says that they deserve it because they knew what they were getting into. Yes they do, but it's in the public interest to respect privacy anyway because a lot of good and capable people don't take important positions because they know what they'd be getting themselves into.

As I say, whatever his real views are and however repugnant his words might be the only thing that should matter to the public are his actions in office which is public information and can be debated.

If he has implemented any sexist policies, or clearly held back capable women from taking positions of office or done something to hinder women's football then he can be judged and called out on that.

That's my opinion anyway.

He's not broken any laws and he's not been charged with committing any crimes.

However, his position requires him to stand up for equality in all its forms. His correspondence indicates that he doesn't practice what he preaches. So it's not just hypocrisy, it's actually the opposite of what his job requires.

[S-RED]

the issue is that once the papers had the story he coveted prem clubs chief execs/chairmen, etc & tried to justify the context; but then came out with the apology, deeming that apology irrelevant & pure lipservice.

He isn't fit to serve for this & also he Man U statement

[topscorer]

He's not broken any laws and he's not been charged with committing any crimes.

However, his position requires him to stand up for equality in all its forms. His correspondence indicates that he doesn't practice what he preaches. So it's not just hypocrisy, it's actually the opposite of what his job requires.

I agree his position is untenable now that his private comments have been made public.

We don't know whether this was a one off exchange that he got drawn into or whether this one email exchange truly reflects his real character. It's easy to get drawn into a conversation without considering your actions and consequences and then regretting it later, it happens all the time on these forums! We can however view his actions in the position he holds and make judgements about whether he has done anything in his duties that has undermined equality to women, or anyone else in fact.

To be clear, I am not and do not want to defend him and I certainly don't defend what he said. I don't care about him personally

My issue is privacy. For me privacy is an important right that has been seriously eroded over the past 20 to 30 years and if we don't do something to start upholding everyone's right to privacy we could all regret it in a few years time. With the advances in technology, communication and media distribution we have become very blasé about people's privacy and most of us don't appreciate it's importance until we become a victim from the loss of it.

Privacy affects women just as much as men. Telephoto lenses to capture topless or naked women, hidden cameras, videos of x girlfriends having sex being posted on porn sites. These are all privacy related issues.

If Scudamore really is a sexist bigot then he should have been investigated and exposed without the use of private emails. I don't think it would have been too hard, or if someone has been a victim of sexism at work from him then they should have taken the appropriate action that hopefully would result in his dismissal but in a way that did not involve an invasion of privacy and further eroding of all our privacy rights.

[dom9]

I agree his position is untenable now that his private comments have been made public.

We don't know whether this was a one off exchange that he got drawn into or whether this one email exchange truly reflects his real character. It's easy to get drawn into a conversation without considering your actions and consequences and then regretting it later, it happens all the time on these forums! We can however view his actions in the position he holds and make judgements about whether he has done anything in his duties that has undermined equality to women, or anyone else in fact.

To be clear, I am not and do not want to defend him and I certainly don't defend what he said. I don't care about him personally

My issue is privacy. For me privacy is an important right that has been seriously eroded over the past 20 to 30 years and if we don't do something to start upholding everyone's right to privacy we could all regret it in a few years time. With the advances in technology, communication and media distribution we have become very blasé about people's privacy and most of us don't appreciate it's importance until we become a victim from the loss of it.

Privacy affects women just as much as men. Telephoto lenses to capture topless or naked women, hidden cameras, videos of x girlfriends having sex being posted on porn sites. These are all privacy related issues.

If Scudamore really is a sexist bigot then he should have been investigated and exposed without the use of private emails. I don't think it would have been too hard, or if someone has been a victim of sexism at work from him then they should have taken the appropriate action that hopefully would result in his dismissal but in a way that did not involve an invasion of privacy and further eroding of all our privacy rights.

I agree with all of that except the last paragraph. It wouldn't be in the Premier League's interest to investigate him if this hadn't leaked as he's a big reason behind it's success.

There are echoes of Keyes / Gray at Sky here aren't there.

[topscorer]

I agree with all of that except the last paragraph. It wouldn't be in the Premier League's interest to investigate him if this hadn't leaked as he's a big reason behind it's success.

There are echoes of Keyes / Gray at Sky here aren't there.

Sorry, I meant that the media should have investigated it instead of posting private emails, not EPL. I should have been more clear.

[Chazza]

Former Arsenal and FA heavyweight David Dein is embroiled in the sleazy emails scandal.

It was the married dad-of-three who emailed a joke about “skinny big-t***ed broads” to Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore.

Mr Scudamore then forwarded the crude message to a lawyer friend. As revealed by the Sunday Mirror last week, Mr Scudamore sent other sexist remarks to senior colleagues.

There were renewed calls today for the Premier League boss to stand down.

Edward Lord, who is on the FA’s Inclusion Advisory Board, said in his blog that Mr Scudamore’s apology for the remarks was “insincere”.

Mr Lord added: “If it is that Richard Scudamore didn’t believe that what he had written was wrong less than a week ago, I think that it is highly unlikely that he has come to that conclusion in any reality since.

“On that basis it appears to me that his position is now looking untenable.

“If Scudamore doesn’t accept the heinous nature of his sexist remarks and the impact they have had, not only on women in the game, but on the perception they create of football’s commitment to equality and inclusion in general, then regrettably I must reach the conclusion that he may be in the wrong job.”



Mr Dein, 70 – a driving force in women’s football and a creator of the Premier League – sent the joke to close friend Mr Scudamore’s Premier League account.

The pair are expected to sit together at Saturday’s FA Cup final between Arsenal and Hull.

Ex-England and Arsenal Ladies defender Katie Chapman tonight told of her disappointment at Mr Dein’s involvement in the scandal.

Katie, 31, who now plays for Chelsea, said: “It’s sad someone of his stature would do something like this, especially considering what he did for women’s football at Arsenal.

"I’m disappointed, but I’m not surprised. There will always be sexism in women’s football and I can’t see it leaving the game.

“But you’d think people in David Dein’s position would know better.”

Mr Dein, who sold his Arsenal stake to Russian oligarchs for £75million, has rubbed shoulders with the great and the good in his key roles.

He was the vice-chairman of Arsenal FC and at the FA. He has also sat on various FIFA committees.

Tonight Mr Dein did not respond to our requests for a comment.

In the past the former president of the Arsenal Ladies team, has been highly critical of sexism in the sport.

He said: “It’s hypocrisy for football to call itself a family game and then keep women out of the boardroom.”

Premier League sponsor Barclays said it is “deeply disappointed” by the revelations about Mr Scudamore’s sexist jokes.

A Premier League panel will decide whether he should face sanctions and the FA’s Inclusion *Advisory Board is holding a meeting on Tuesday to discuss the issue.

Mr Scudamore apologised for the emails, saying: “It was an error of *judgment that I will not make again.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/richard-scudamore-sexism-scandal-david-3553486?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[ChesterDave]

**** him. Private or not he is the head of a glkbal brand using hus privatr email to rip the piss out of a colleague. It's not like its Joe Public having a pop at some bird in thr office. Hr should know better. Fuvk him. Hope he gets sacked

[Chazza]

*sent from my drunk pub phone.

[dom9]

**** him. Private or not he is the head of a glkbal brand using hus privatr email to rip the piss out of a colleague. It's not like its Joe Public having a pop at some bird in thr office. Hr should know better. Fuvk him. Hope he gets sacked

Hahahahaha

Good night in?

[Venton]

I agree his position is untenable now that his private comments have been made public.

We don't know whether this was a one off exchange that he got drawn into or whether this one email exchange truly reflects his real character. It's easy to get drawn into a conversation without considering your actions and consequences and then regretting it later, it happens all the time on these forums! We can however view his actions in the position he holds and make judgements about whether he has done anything in his duties that has undermined equality to women, or anyone else in fact.

To be clear, I am not and do not want to defend him and I certainly don't defend what he said. I don't care about him personally

My issue is privacy. For me privacy is an important right that has been seriously eroded over the past 20 to 30 years and if we don't do something to start upholding everyone's right to privacy we could all regret it in a few years time. With the advances in technology, communication and media distribution we have become very blasé about people's privacy and most of us don't appreciate it's importance until we become a victim from the loss of it.

Privacy affects women just as much as men. Telephoto lenses to capture topless or naked women, hidden cameras, videos of x girlfriends having sex being posted on porn sites. These are all privacy related issues.

If Scudamore really is a sexist bigot then he should have been investigated and exposed without the use of private emails. I don't think it would have been too hard, or if someone has been a victim of sexism at work from him then they should have taken the appropriate action that hopefully would result in his dismissal but in a way that did not involve an invasion of privacy and further eroding of all our privacy rights.

I have the same kind of feelings about you on this and I agree it is a fine line. People can be drawn into all kinds of things and often say things they don't actually mean to fit in or in the heat of argument. It may not show them in their best light but it doesn't necessarily define all that they are.

However public figures are different to this. They are in positions of power, often great power, over other people and have a disproportionate affect in what they do. If people like Scudamore are saying one thing in the public forum but reflecting another in private then it might be in the public interest to show that. I've highlighted one bit above in bold. People often say that this kind of discrimination sits in the background and doesn't manifest itself overtly. That's one of the reasons given for what's termed positive discrimination in that there are biases in society that need correcting but you can't pull up as individual cases as it's so hard to do. Sometimes people are sophisticated enough to avoid displaying what they feel where they think they might get caught but let their guard down when they think they won't. If that's their real nature doesn't that mean they will use those biases? How many times can you promote or demote people based on those biases without giving anyone proof that's what you're doing?

I thought, maybe wrongly, that he used his work email. In my place of work that'd be gross misconduct right there. Either way it was in the context of business so it'd be out of the private sphere and into the work space I suppose.

So, you might say he's let himself down a bit on a personal level but we've all fallen and can bounce back. But as an executive representing the premier league I think his position is untenable.

[ChesterDave]

*sent from my drunk pub phone.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=2900866&postcount=658

Yeah. Drunk 4 days before anyone gave a cunting duking toss about it?

Or maybe it actually genuinely pisses me off that the figure head of a global billion pound brand is a sexist degenerate ****ing cunt?

Hahahahaha

Good night in?

Do you always have to act the high and mighty ****ing prick?

[Chazza]

[ChesterDave]

I see

So someone mocks me and its all gravy.

I have a pop back and use an image titled 'handbags' to ridicule me.

A little ironic to use the handbags mock in a sexism topic.

Dont want to address that for more than half a week nobody gave a ****ing toss about this?

[Venton]

I missed your original post mate and agree that he's a ****