FIFA Corruption Thread

[ChesterDave]

Not a great source but very interesting if true

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3113870/Qatar-stripped-2022-World-Cup-according-country-s-whistleblower.html

[Liverpel]

I wouldn't be surprised if John Delaney "stepped down" today.




15m ago14:35

The sports minister, Pascal Donohoe, has also called on Delaney and the FAI to clarify matters. “I can assure you that I had no knowledge of this transaction. I would be very surprised if any of my predecessors were aware of it ether. It is all for these reasons and it is in everybody’s interests that clarity be brought to these matters.”

35m ago14:15

Enda Kenny’s deputy, Joan Burton, said she found the story “intriguing, particularly the meeting where you have a few hot words and leave with €5 million in your pocket.”

41m ago14:09

The story continues to gather pace in Ireland – the FAI are expected to release another statement later today, according to an Taoiseach, Enda Kenny. He has told journalists that John Delaney has many questions to answer after the “quite extraordinary” payment but added that the FAI chief executive’s job is still tenable.



For the record, Delaney earns €350,000 a year. The winners of the League of Ireland receive €100,000.

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[Red_Polo]

I'm not sure it's about corrupting. To me it seems to be about negligence.

Right, breakfast has arrived. Time to focus on the important stuff.

Not all mistakes are negligence though. Negligence would require the ref (or FIFA) to have acted improperly in some way. I haven't read any suggestion as to what that might have been in this case, other than Blatter making a tit out of himself afterwards which had no bearing on Ireland not making the world cup.

[dom9]

My point is that referees make mistakes all the time, and unless corruption can be proven, Taking it to court is totally silly.


As I understand the Irish beef. Henry handballed, which wasnt picked up by the refs. As a result they didnt go to the World Cup (although it could be argued that they should have scored more than the French, which is why they didnt go) They then thought that based on that game and the fact that Blatter was seen to be sniggering about it, that they could take Fifa to court. Fifa didnt want them too, so agreed the sum.

It just seems like shaky ground to go to court, and for FIFA to fold so easily in the face of some very flimsy reasons.

I'm not sure it's about corrupting. To me it seems to be about negligence.

Right, breakfast has arrived. Time to focus on the important stuff.

[Alex]

No issue with settling a lawsuit per se. I'm not sure spending millions to pay people off for the consequences of poor officiating sits well with fifas resistance to implement measures to improve it. But scandalous it isn't.

In isolation its not, but I think Im not getting across well.

I think that if it happens a lot (Fifa covering up sporting decisions going against someone) by settling out of court. I think that's an issue.

Mind you I dont know how common it is in other sports.

[dom9]

No issue with settling a lawsuit per se. I'm not sure spending millions to pay people off for the consequences of poor officiating sits well with fifas resistance to implement measures to improve it. But scandalous it isn't.

Yep.

If more people took them to court they might actually do something about the ineptitude of the people they employ to ensure that the rules on the pitch are adhered to.

[Yozza]

Isn't the point that the Irish are insinuating that it wasn't an honest mistake but engineered so France got through?

I may be wrong - It is early!

[Alex]

My point is that referees make mistakes all the time, and unless corruption can be proven, Taking it to court is totally silly.


As I understand the Irish beef. Henry handballed, which wasnt picked up by the refs. As a result they didnt go to the World Cup (although it could be argued that they should have scored more than the French, which is why they didnt go) They then thought that based on that game and the fact that Blatter was seen to be sniggering about it, that they could take Fifa to court. Fifa didnt want them too, so agreed the sum.

It just seems like shaky ground to go to court, and for FIFA to fold so easily in the face of some very flimsy reasons.

[Kenneth]

No issue with settling a lawsuit per se. I'm not sure spending millions to pay people off for the consequences of poor officiating sits well with fifas resistance to implement measures to improve it. But scandalous it isn't.

[dom9]

Another way of looking at it...

The referee, an employee of Fifa, was negligent. Ergo, Fifa was negligent. So why not sue? And if it looks like going to court, why not settle so as to avoid a massive mess and further PR own goals? It seems like a pragmatic approach to me and certainly not illegal.

[dom9]

Yes, but say QPR took the FA to court this season because a couple of bad calls got them relegated. Wouldn't work would it? Just think its quite a weak way to pacify people.

What about all of the other teams who missed out on that WC through the play offs?

I don't understand your point if I'm being honest. It is early, mind.

I don't have a problem with it.

[Alex]

Yes, but say QPR took the FA to court this season because a couple of bad calls got them relegated. Wouldn't work would it? Just think its quite a weak way to pacify people.

What about all of the other teams who missed out on that WC through the play offs?

[dom9]

The article suggests that the money was not accounted for by the Irish, so that is different problem imo.

[dom9]

Do you really think the threat of legal action over an incorrect handball decision should be worth getting €5m? I think that's the issue, rather than the fact they settled out of court. It shouldnt even be a point of discussion. It seems to me that FIFA should say:

'Im sorry, but that's what happened during a game of football' and be done with it. Not because Ireland couldn't score the goals needed to get through. They wouldn't have threatened legal action if they had got though would they?

Just seems to me its another example of FIFA throwing money at a problem to keep them smelling sweet.

The Irish would have lost out on a lot of revenue had they made it to the World Cup, so yes. It seems reasonable to me on the face of it.