FIFA Corruption Thread

[fah-q]

But then they'd have to take into account other people's holiday seasons, etc.

[EwarWoo]

Because not all of the world celebrates Christmas?

And? Unless there's some worldwide holiday I'm unaware of just prior to Christmas that doesn't mean they can't nudge it back a bit for those that do.

[fah-q]

If they're going to do it so close to christmas why don't they just do it over Christmas so People will be off work and can watch it?

The Christmas league schedule is ****ed anyways, may as well give us some festive football to watch.

Because not all of the world celebrates Christmas?

[fah-q]

This is the most salient piece in that article.

And when FIFA announce a world-record sponsorship deal with Qatar Airways later this year, as insiders expect, none at all.

Utterly incredible how this would be allowed to stand.

[EwarWoo]

Or, when broken down into weeks, is eight.

And time off to recover afterwards, otherwise the teams with players not good enough to go to the world cup will be storming the league.

[EwarWoo]

If they're going to do it so close to christmas why don't they just do it over Christmas so People will be off work and can watch it?

The Christmas league schedule is ****ed anyways, may as well give us some festive football to watch.

[Lecter]

Probably wishful thinking on my part. FIFA have ruled out compensation today saying there is nothing to apologise for and there are seven years to prepare.

EDIT: I see you've seen the news snippets now.



Or, when broken down into weeks, is eight.

I think they will end up paying some compensation

The clubs wont stand for it

I think things are coming to the boil with FIFA, its so corrupt its destroying the commodity it governs

Its absolutely beyond saving its rotten to the core

I can see more and more disenfranchisement with the organisation and that is going to mean that nations look at other alternatives

I can see Europe setting up a rival organisation, we already have some big names in football jockeying for position. Platini would love to rule FIFA but fears Blatter and you have people like Rummenigge, Figo etc.. all positioning themselves

For me it only takes one of these to decide enoughs enough and the whole thing will fall like a house of cards

[Lecter]

HOW EVERY CLUB IN THE COUNTRY WILL BE AFFECTED IN 2022

When will the 2022 World Cup in Qatar run?
The exact dates have yet to be confirmed but ‘late November to late December’ 2022 has been recommended by FIFA’s task force, with Saturday November 26 to Friday December 23 mooted as a possible 28-day slot. A final decision is expected on March 20.

A World Cup final near to Christmas sounds crazy...
It would mean travel chaos over an already tricky holiday time. There is sure to be lobbying to play the final earlier, perhaps on Sunday December 18, which is also Qatar National Day.

What’s the problem with having an earlier final?
Whenever it’s played, domestic seasons will need to stop weeks before the first match to allow squads to prepare. Typically this run-up period is a month. It will need to be a minimum of two weeks. A World Cup ending on December 23 would mean domestic competitions breaking in early November. Any earlier and football might have to stop as early as October.

What happens to the 2022-23 Premier League season?
Two months of club football will be ‘displaced’, and if the period cleared for the World Cup is as mooted, that will essentially be November and December. That would mean 10 Premier League games and three Champions League games being played earlier or later. So, for example, the Premier League season may have to start a month earlier (mid-July 2022) and finish a month later (mid-June 2023). The seasons before and after would also need to shift to accommodate this. There will be disruption, to about 50 leagues, for about three years.

What about the Football League?
Club football across England would almost certainly be suspended for a chunk of the World Cup as FIFA insist on a ‘blackout’ of about 20 days when no attention is taken from their showpiece.

How will the fixture congestion affect domestic action?
FA Cup replays could be one victim for at least a season. Premier League clubs might play fewer League Cup games. Some European competition fixtures will need to be rescheduled. The Africa Cup of Nations due for January 2023 may have to be shelved.

Will the move to winter hit clubs in the pocket?
Almost certainly in terms of missing out on the holiday-season bonanza of capacity crowds, but also untold millions if TV companies bid less for disrupted domestic seasons. Arguably hardest hit will be smaller Football League clubs, reliant on turnstile cash, who are forced to go without games — and income — for weeks.

What do Sky and BT Sport think?
Both broadcasters declined to comment. But by 2022-23, we will be two more Premier League TV deals down the line after the £5billion extravaganza just agreed. Who knows who will have UK live rights then? Maybe beIN Sports… based in Qatar!

You’re not serious?
That’s what several hundred million fans said when it was announced in December 2010 that Qatar would host 2022. Rule out nothing, no matter how seemingly ridiculous or outrageous.

Is there any chance this ALL won’t even happen?
Very little. And when FIFA announce a world-record sponsorship deal with Qatar Airways later this year, as insiders expect, none at all. Merry Christmas!

[Muddled]

I cant see any nations boycotting it

What I do think will happen is that the leagues (and the clubs) will negotiate hard / pursue FIFA for large amounts of compensation for the disruption caused

Probably wishful thinking on my part. FIFA have ruled out compensation today saying there is nothing to apologise for and there are seven years to prepare.

EDIT: I see you've seen the news snippets now.

Its not just the few weeks of the actual tournament, the national sides are going to want time to prepare and recuperate

The whole of November AND December will be complete right offs

Or, when broken down into weeks, is eight.

[Lecter]

Interesting to see FIFA saying no compensation would be paid yet Rummenigge saying the members of his European organisation would insist on compensation

If I was Europe I'd tell FIFA to go **** themselves and set up a rival organisation

FIFA is so corrupt its beyond saving

[Vermilion]

I cant see any nations boycotting it

What I do think will happen is that the leagues (and the clubs) will negotiate hard / pursue FIFA for large amounts of compensation for the disruption caused

Can't help thinking Scudamores anger is largely based around this.

[Lecter]

It will wipe out eight weeks of domestic football which will have shoe-horned into May and June. The FA Cup will be put on hold, the League Cup will have to play catch up and as Alex has said, any momentum will be lost. Players will pull out of 50/50's in the earlier parts of the season, conserve energy, etc, and then there is the potential of injuries during the competition itself.

Then it'll be pre-season, another football season and then it's Euro 2024. As much as we dislike the money in the game and the cash players earn, the pressure and physical impact on these people will be incredible.

Its not just the few weeks of the actual tournament, the national sides are going to want time to prepare and recuperate

The whole of November AND December will be complete right offs

[Lecter]

I cant see any nations boycotting it

What I do think will happen is that the leagues (and the clubs) will negotiate hard / pursue FIFA for large amounts of compensation for the disruption caused

[Vermilion]

The whole thing stinks. As I understood it the bidding process was for a summer world cup so FIFA should have taken into account factor like if being too ****ing hot to play football there in the summer when they were evaluating the bids. The fact that they didn't can only lead to two conclusions: incompitence or corruption.

While we have all known something like this was coming it shows how farsical all this is. If they wanted the world cup to have been hosted at another time of year this should have been set out before the bidding process and discussions been held with the governing bodies etc and the proposed times evaluated in the bidding process rather than FIFA unilaterally deciding and making it up as they go along. It is unbelievable that the people resonsible for making this decision are still in power, it just shows that FIFA lack any credibility whatsoever.

As a kid I used to love the world cup but as I am getting older I'm becoming more and more disinterested in it and international football. I've now reached the point where I'd be quite happy if they never played an international football match again.

Totally agree, and it's why i think it's impossible they didn't take the heat into account, they did, they knew it couldn't be done, so together they came up with all this **** about air conditioning, just to get the thing awarded.

Once that was done, wheels put into motion etc, then they could start to back down on certain promises of it being able to played in the heat.

[Exiled_red]

The whole thing stinks. As I understood it the bidding process was for a summer world cup so FIFA should have taken into account factor like if being too ****ing hot to play football there in the summer when they were evaluating the bids. The fact that they didn't can only lead to two conclusions: incompitence or corruption.

While we have all known something like this was coming it shows how farsical all this is. If they wanted the world cup to have been hosted at another time of year this should have been set out before the bidding process and discussions been held with the governing bodies etc and the proposed times evaluated in the bidding process rather than FIFA unilaterally deciding and making it up as they go along. It is unbelievable that the people resonsible for making this decision are still in power, it just shows that FIFA lack any credibility whatsoever.

As a kid I used to love the world cup but as I am getting older I'm becoming more and more disinterested in it and international football. I've now reached the point where I'd be quite happy if they never played an international football match again.