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    #46
    Originally posted by Roboklopp View Post
    ****en hell, how many times?

    We picked up more points per game after that discourse than before.


    It was the wrong job to take though as Carra pointed out. Rafa is methodical and it takes time for him to get his ideas over. They don't have the time

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      #47
      End of the day though he knew what he was getting into.

      If they give it a fighting chance and go down fair play to him.

      If they keep on like this and go down with no fight he has to take some responsibility. They could have employed the mascot for an extra $200 a week to come in and be of no help.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Roboklopp View Post
        ****en hell, how many times?

        We picked up more points per game after that discourse than before.
        Don't shake your head at me. Ok, so it might not have been that exact moment but the point still stands. He has not managed his teams as well since in and around that time. It's a ****ing obvious point tbh so don't shake your head at me like I'm talking ****.

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          #49
          Maybe I'm being dim but it's not obvious to me. What are you saying the link is between that press conference and how he set up his teams in subsequent seasons?

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            #50






            Oh I don't know.

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              #51
              Originally posted by dom9 View Post







              **** you dom, **** you.

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                #52
                Oh I don't know.

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                  #53
                  Oh I don't know.

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                    #54
                    Was muß, das muß.

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                      #55

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                        #56
                        How has M'Vila been fairing for Sunderland? I seem to remember some anger at why we weren't in for him?

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                          How has M'Vila been fairing for Sunderland? I seem to remember some anger at why we weren't in for him?
                          nothing special ....regular starter but nothing to write home about.

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                            #58
                            Borini is so **** **** me, what sort of muppet sanctions an £11m deal for him

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Saveloy View Post
                              Maybe I'm being dim but it's not obvious to me. What are you saying the link is between that press conference and how he set up his teams in subsequent seasons?
                              He's nowhere near the same level of manager he used to be imo, getting sacked left right and centre.

                              The old Rafa would be steamrolling these jobs (inter, Madrid, Napoli)

                              I just think, from memory, it was in and around that time where he seemed to lose the measure of his sides

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                                #60
                                Without wanting to go on a Rafa related tangent we didn't falter after 'Rafa's rant'. If anything, we grew stronger as the season went on. We lost out to a decent team who played out of their skin. Any other season (more or less) and we'd have been champions.

                                His choice of clubs after us - and his seemingly ongoing battle with Mourinho - has certainly had an impact.

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