Originally posted by BobTheCharmer
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We've had **** all else we could do for months
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Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostWe've had **** all else we could do for months
it's made me watch less than at any other time in my life. Once you accept it's all bollocks it's easier.
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If fans were never going to return to watching football then id lose all interest in it.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post it's made me watch less than at any other time in my life. Once you accept it's all bollocks it's easier.
Football is nothing without fans.removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.Comment
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Just watched that on Sky, and as they can't say for sure from the picture available (for all they know, the WBA player could have his arse sticking out and they only use that one camera for decisions) they have stuck with the onfield decision. In my mind, this is fine, a decision was made, and because there is no 'definitive' proof otherwise, they have stuck with it. That is how it should be done.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
The freeze framing when a ball leaves the foot stuff, and the lines being so close it comes down to millimeters, well that is where they should either follow the example above by sticking with the onfield call, or have a carte-blanche 'attacker gets the benefit' in all cases.
I think next year may see a mash up or the Dutch league (fixed line widths) and sticking with the onfield call. Will be so much cleaner and efficient.
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But from each of the dozen other cameras it’s clear that his arse wasn’t sticking out, it could be seen with the eye without the need for lines. If the VAR cannot see what millions of people can on TV, then it’s not fit for purpose. There was a clear on-field error and VAR didn’t fix it, it’s sole purpose is to do so. Should be another nail in the coffin for this system.for all they know, the WBA player could have his arse sticking out and they only use that one camera for decisionsTrey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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This is a fair point..
[ame]https://twitter.com/lpoolck/status/1381701269836947460[/ame]Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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They use one camera in a fixed position for VAR offside calls, so they can calibrate the lines. So that is the only camera that can be used for evidence in these situations. I'm fine with that, it should be the best way of analysing these things quickly (it isn't yet, but that is cos we use it so incompetently). And from what they had available, they go with the onfield call, otherwise we get into a situation further down the line where they have to trawl thru 15 cameras' footage to find a good angle....so no, stick with the one fixed camera angle, consistent at every ground.Comment
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And yes, again in this situation, VAR should have said we don't have enough evidence, go with the onfield decision. Why they didn't and took a guess, only the VAR man knows....my guess is cos it's Liverpool.Originally posted by Kenneth View PostComment
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The Liverpool one needed lines to determine, the issue with the West Brom one was that a simple TV replay would have been enough, and we know they have access to those angles because they use them for other kinds of incidents.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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I'd rather for offside we stuck to the one camera angle, for fairness at all grounds. If that one camera angle is inconclusive, the onfield decision is the one to go with. Quick and simple.Originally posted by Kenneth View PostComment
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Ok. I'd rather they correct obvious errors when they have the means to.Last edited by Kenneth; 13-04-21, 04:32 PM.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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Give this an oul bump.
It appears as though we're not quite there to say the least."I will make the boys feel your support"
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It's the whole need for it to be a clear and obvious mistake which is a load of bollocks, once the ref has given it on the pitch the only way it's overturned is if VAR can show there is no contact at all. If the ref on the pitch doesn't give it there is no way the ref overturns that decision to award the pen. There needs to be a better way of dealing with this. Or there needs to be the ability for a manager to challenge decisions.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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