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I enjoy all the rigmarole around it to be fair.......players wanting to bundle over to look at the screen, arguing things right in front of their face, refs taking an age while looking at the screen despite it being obvious, players calling for every little incident to be questioned, more than a couple West Brom players lording it to the ref after Bobby missed the peno etc etc
"I will make the boys feel your support"
Jurgen Klopp June 2020
I think they need to be clearer about it's use and what is going on and when it is to be used, I know that the VAR got all the decisions right yesterday so I suppose it was justified but there seemed to be a lot of decisions referred, did the referee really miss all those or was it a lack of confidence in his ability or a desire to get things right or what?
It seems like they still want the referees to make the decision hence why the referee has to go over to the tunnel (or whatever) to watch it on the TV. What happens if the tunnel is at the far end of the ground rather than on the halfway line, that would take even longer to sort out. Surely he should be told the decision to make over the microphone.
I also feel that the players and the fans need to have a better idea what is going on
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
We had a situation recently between Freiburg vs Hertha (i think) , where there was a Foul in the penalty area but the ref waved play on...over a Minute later he stopped the game & gave the penalty...everybody was shocked & frustrated that it took so long.
****e at the actual match as you have no idea what they are looking at
This was completely predictable. It only works well if fans are keyed into what's going on. If you get to watch the same angles, and hear the decision making process it works a million times better, which is why it works in rugby.
This was completely predictable. It only works well if fans are keyed into what's going on. If you get to watch the same angles, and hear the decision making process it works a million times better, which is why it works in rugby.
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
This was completely predictable. It only works well if fans are keyed into what's going on. If you get to watch the same angles, and hear the decision making process it works a million times better, which is why it works in rugby.
I enjoy all the rigmarole around it to be fair.......players wanting to bundle over to look at the screen, arguing things right in front of their face, refs taking an age while looking at the screen despite it being obvious, players calling for every little incident to be questioned, more than a couple West Brom players lording it to the ref after Bobby missed the peno etc etc
I thought it was quite exciting.
People say it breaks the game up, but there is more tension and excitement in those few mins than there is watching us pass the ball about in midfield while the opposition sits back and lets us.
I also didn't really see what the big difference is between the ref consulting VAR, than a decision being given and players arguing with the ref for 5 mins about it or forcing him to go speak to the linesman.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
I like it and anything that lowers the chances of us getting ****ed over by refs every week is brilliant, especially given it's a yearly occurrence at places like Old Trafford so I'd like it in the league. Any teething problems will hopefully be ironed out.
I'm very, very surprised Utd aren't fighting this actually, going to have an enormous impact on their yearly points totals if implemented correctly in the future.
My main criticism of it is in relaying it to the crowd at the game itself. I was at the WBA game and we didn't really know what was going on right up at the top of the main stand. There has to be some means of communicating it to fans, be it via tannoy or on the screens / scoreboards.
The other oddness was the amount of time added to the game for stopping and looking at VAR, which didn't seem to be adequately added at the end of each half. I think there were 4 minutes at the end of the first half on Saturday, which seemed way too short for the amount of normal stoppages plus VAR.
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