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    #16
    Absolutely hate it. It will quite possibly be the final straw in following football for me unless it improves dramatically.

    It works ok in an offside decision, but football especially over here is fast paced. You literally almost get a pen at one end and the opposition score at the other. Offside is pretty much cut and dried, as is mistaken identity. Fouls and the like are opinion based and subjective, us lot on here don't agree even when it's our team. There's very few cut and dried. Take the lovren derby penalty. Nailed on for me. Cheating blue for many. Do you trust two refs to get it right and at what cost?

    It's such a quick game, it's never going to work in a positive way for me. For me VAR made that game a farce and if I had paid sixty quid I'd want a refund for spoiling my entertainment.

    Refs are going to end up referring everything for fear of looking a Cock.

    This is my outlook, others will love it, like the ones who diss the fa cup as not being important.
    Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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      #17
      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
      Absolutely hate it. It will quite possibly be the final straw in following football for me unless it improves dramatically.

      It works ok in an offside decision, but football especially over here is fast paced. You literally almost get a pen at one end and the opposition score at the other. Offside is pretty much cut and dried, as is mistaken identity. Fouls and the like are opinion based and subjective, us lot on here don't agree even when it's our team. There's very few cut and dried. Take the lovren derby penalty. Nailed on for me. Cheating blue for many. Do you trust two refs to get it right and at what cost?

      It's such a quick game, it's never going to work in a positive way for me. For me VAR made that game a farce and if I had paid sixty quid I'd want a refund for spoiling my entertainment.

      Refs are going to end up referring everything for fear of looking a Cock.

      This is my outlook, others will love it, like the ones who diss the fa cup as not being important.
      Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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        #18
        Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
        My main criticism of it is in relaying it to the crowd at the game itself. I was at the WBA game and we didn't really know what was going on right up at the top of the main stand. There has to be some means of communicating it to fans, be it via tannoy or on the screens / scoreboards.

        The other oddness was the amount of time added to the game for stopping and looking at VAR, which didn't seem to be adequately added at the end of each half. I think there were 4 minutes at the end of the first half on Saturday, which seemed way too short for the amount of normal stoppages plus VAR.


        You have to have screens to make it engaging for the crowd.

        Also may be worth doing it in the cricket/tennis way with challenges on certain incidents... Basically pens and offisides.
        Modifying post.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
          My main criticism of it is in relaying it to the crowd at the game itself. I was at the WBA game and we didn't really know what was going on right up at the top of the main stand. There has to be some means of communicating it to fans, be it via tannoy or on the screens / scoreboards.

          The other oddness was the amount of time added to the game for stopping and looking at VAR, which didn't seem to be adequately added at the end of each half. I think there were 4 minutes at the end of the first half on Saturday, which seemed way too short for the amount of normal stoppages plus VAR.
          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post


          You have to have screens to make it engaging for the crowd.

          Also may be worth doing it in the cricket/tennis way with challenges on certain incidents... Basically pens and offisides.
          Is there any reason why, like in Rugby league, the crowd cannot be shown the same images that the Video Ref is viewing, so at least they can see what is happening and will be more understanding of tight decisions and the time taken to process them?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Scratch View Post
            Is there any reason why, like in Rugby league, the crowd cannot be shown the same images that the Video Ref is viewing, so at least they can see what is happening and will be more understanding of tight decisions and the time taken to process them?
            Wouldn't work at Anfield - no screens
            Oh I don't know.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Scratch View Post
              Is there any reason why, like in Rugby league, the crowd cannot be shown the same images that the Video Ref is viewing, so at least they can see what is happening and will be more understanding of tight decisions and the time taken to process them?
              IIRC way back when they stopped showing replays in stadiums as it incited a certain elements to get incited as they tend to do.

              IMO no reason they can't show VAR as it's stuff being visibly "righted".

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                #22
                Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                Wouldn't work at Anfield - no screens
                A slight drawback, but one easily rectified.

                Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
                IIRC way back when they stopped showing replays in stadiums as it incited a certain elements to get incited as they tend to do.

                IMO no reason they can't show VAR as it's stuff being visibly "righted".
                Exactly, as it's already a decision being reviewed, let the crowd see the pictures too. Give them something to chat about whilst the pitch ref is conferring with the video ref.

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                  #23
                  Where would you put the screens at Anfield?
                  Oh I don't know.

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                    #24
                    need two screens, one at corner of kop and ms, one at corner of ar and cent.
                    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                      #25
                      Someone posted this on Twitter, made me chuckle.


                      Son scores the winner, does a VAR signal in celebration, gets sent off, that goes to VAR, Son comes back on after the review, goal is chalked off, Son complains, gets sent off
                      www.terracehound.com

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                        #26
                        Premier League clubs are not expected to introduce video assistant referees next season, even if football's lawmakers approve them on Saturday.
                        BBC

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                          #27
                          [ame]https://twitter.com/GoalUK/status/970208886736080902[/ame]

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                            #28
                            Wtf

                            A penalty was awarded after players had already left the pitch for half-time in a Bundesliga match between relegation rivals Mainz and Freiburg.

                            Referee Guido Winkmann called both sides back from the dressing room after consulting the video assistant referee (VAR) system and penalising Freiburg for handball.

                            Hello mert.

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                              #29
                              VAR is bloody stupid and slow. Just let the game flow and use it to catch dangerous play and clear offsides.

                              There should be a 20 second time limit and anything caught outside of that is invalid.

                              Retrospective red cards not included though.
                              Was muß, das muß.

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                                #30
                                Then you'd have wasted 20 seconds.
                                Are we winning?

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