VAR thread

[baitman]

If the ball from firmino went straight to salah then its offside, but surely if its played back to salah from the keeper of an oppo player then its another phase of play.

And to add, this "phase of play" thing is all ****e and whats really ****ed up the offside rule.
It needs binning so its either offside or not, with no complications.

[ChesterDave]

I don't agree. It is the same phase of play. Salah, or any striker for that matter, is gaining a massive advantage by standing beyond the last defender. If the keeper pushed the ball out wide and the defence retreated and Salah headed in a subsequent cross I would agree second phase but in that scenario its the same one, for me at least.

[peterbread]

They just seem to complicate things here. They rarely overturn decision when it’s clear it’s wrong. It takes so long to check things and when you’re at the game you have no idea what’s happening.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/australian-a-league/story/3485598/a-league-grand-final-var-controversy-down-to-technical-failure-ffa

This is from the grand final last season. So it’s meant to fix the clear errors but still can’t. Most of the mistakes are from the video refs interfering and so far this season it’s just every round they make mistakes. There are too many to talk about.

Last season there were 3 reds in one game and if I remember right none were reds it’s the video ref getting in the refs ear saying you need to go look at the video. It worked in the World Cup but here it doesn’t. I don’t know if it’s the people or how they’ve set it up but I hate it. I may be biased but I did see a stat saying my team had been done by the VAR more than any team with wrong decisions.

[Exiled_red]

They just seem to complicate things here. They rarely overturn decision when it’s clear it’s wrong. It takes so long to check things and when you’re at the game you have no idea what’s happening.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/australian-a-league/story/3485598/a-league-grand-final-var-controversy-down-to-technical-failure-ffa

This is from the grand final last season. So it’s meant to fix the clear errors but still can’t. Most of the mistakes are from the video refs interfering and so far this season it’s just every round they make mistakes. There are too many to talk about.

Last season there were 3 reds in one game and if I remember right none were reds it’s the video ref getting in the refs ear saying you need to go look at the video. It worked in the World Cup but here it doesn’t. I don’t know if it’s the people or how they’ve set it up but I hate it. I may be biased but I did see a stat saying my team had been done by the VAR more than any team with wrong decisions.

Wow that's bad.

Personally I didn't think that the VAR system worked in the world cup, alot of incidents that were referred to VAR resulted in soft penalties or soft fouls because they were viewed in slow motion, there was at least one penalty for handball which was given from VAR that was stupidly soft. But there was still a huge lottery as to whether incidents are referred to VAR or not, it needs to be decided how the referral system works or whether someone is going to be in the refs ear telling him he might want to take a look at this or whether all scoring plays are reviewed or what.

When it comes in I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that it will be worse than the existing system because any wrong decisions will be amplified massively.

[peterbread]

It’s meant to fix the complete **** ups but it doesn’t and makes it more complicated. We’ve had the same system for how long now and it’s part of the game. Human error is annoying but players make mistakes as well. Goal line technology is the type of technology that works. It’s clear, simple and you get an immediate answer. Otherwise there are far more important things to fix like diving and all the Neymar type carry on.

[EwarWoo]

At the end of the day I think he's clearly offside, we got away with it, we won by enough it doesn't really matter, and people will whinge about anything.

[Chris]

I was massively for it thinking it'd stop the robberies I've seen so many times at Old Trafford but I'm beginning to think it's a waste of time, there's still loads of horrific decision and stuff like this is still getting penalties even with VAR involved.

https://streamja.com/qNvX

[S-RED]

I was massively for it thinking it'd stop the robberies I've seen so many times at Old Trafford but I'm beginning to think it's a waste of time, there's still loads of horrific decision and stuff like this is still getting penalties even with VAR involved.

https://streamja.com/qNvX

joke of a decision, why did the ref not go & view the video?

[Kenneth]

$$$

[Chris]

I got this so wrong. Man Utd getting favours was the thing I thought it'd cut out but it's going to make it worse. Scandalous.

[BobTheCharmer]

It's the death of football. It leaves it even more open to corrupt or inept decisions. It can't work. It won't work.

[Buzzo]

It could work if it was thoughtfully introduced with clear rules around where and how it is used.

Doesn’t look like that is happening though so, yeah, it could well be the death of football.

Referees pretty much deciding games and like last night in the Madrid game looking at throw ins for 5 mins etc.

Shouldn’t be that difficult to implement with clear areas where it is to be used and how it is run. But that’s not happening.

They HAVE to show the crowd what the ref sees. And they should mic the ref like in Rugby.

[Pablo]

Must admit I was pro VAR but the decisions I've seen lately are quickly turning me against it.

Agree with mic'ing the ref too, I would love to know his thought process for considering that deliberate handball yesterday.

[The_weatherman]

Doesn't the ref get any help from the fourth ref to assess things like these? I'd rather not use VAR if it isn't cutting out mistakes.

[S-RED]

As a minimum requirement, they must adopt the Rugby system:

• Ref micked up
• Used only for clear & obvious errors
• The on-field ref can ask for opinion from VAR ref,
• The VAR ref cannot influence the on-field ref until opinion is asked for
• Reviews shown on stadium screens
• Review in real-time from various angles
• Slow-mo only used when in real-time repeats have been shown