VAR thread

[ashey]

I agree about using the Rugby model. We definitely need to hear the discussion and rational, and let the on-pitch referee make the decision.

I'd also advocate using referees that have reached retirement age as the VAR ref. They've built up experience and don't need to worry about the physical aspect of refereeing a game.

[maxwellbaxter]

Video 'assistant' Ref. On Field referee should visit the monitor on every VAR issue and make the final decision

[spud_gun]

VAR shambles in the Chelsea game.

Chavs get a penalty for ricocheted handball and Rennes player gets a second Yellow and red for the handball.

**** VAR

[Scratch]

By CL rules, it was a handball, as the player had made himself unnaturally bigger...what I did disagree with was the red, as that was given for stopping a goal scoring opportunity. After the ricochet, the ball was going nowhere near the goal.

[RedReet]

Not exactly a VAR issue, but one of the things that has annoyed me recently is players getting penalties when they are going nowhere. In its simplest terms, a penalty should be awarded as compensation if a player is illegally denied a goal scoring chance. I'm thinking of the Kane and Fabinho incidents recently, despite the fact that they weren't even fouls, both attackers were going nowhere, so why should they be rewarded with an almost guaranteed goal? Even to a lesser extent, the Salah pen as he looked to be going nowhere, although arguably one turn and he was in Salah range. There are many more examples, these are just the more recent and I think something needs to change.

The double jeopardy rule was introduced a few years ago as a red card and pen seemed too severe a punishment and I think the same should apply here.

Neil Atkinson made a fair point on LFC TV's press box that perhaps the boxes should be made smaller. I think this would be an excellent idea. They should definitely be more narrow, as how is a player who is fouled at the left or right hand side of the box denied a goal scoring opportunity? Likewise, it's a harsh punishment for a defender blocking a cross who accidentally handballs it in an innocuous area.

IF VAR are going to check everything and we are going to keep hearing "by the letter of the law...", then something needs to be done to downgrade some pens to free kicks. If the boxes aren't going to change size, maybe referees could decide if a foul denies a goal scoring chance then pen, if the player is going away from goal or the ball going out of play then indirect free kick. Could even make the handball rule a bit easier, deliberate hand ball or denies a goal bound shot then pen, if it's totally accidental (like old rules) or takes a deflected then indirect freekick.

Obviously I've massively simplified here, but f something like this was introduced and there were less match defining calls being decided by VAR, then there would be less publicity around it and hopefully start giving the officials the opportunity to improve their use of it.

[S-RED]

Bamford goal ruled out at palace........ the system is broken, what an absolute joke.

[Kenneth]

[ame]https://twitter.com/stehoare/status/1325099102472900609[/ame]

[RichC]

Absolute ****ing shambles.

[Mark79]

Ludicrous, but it’s as much the new handball rule as VAR that’s the problem there. Same as our disallowed winner against Everton.

[ChesterDave]

Can't even see the arse of the palace player that looks as if it could be playing him on

[S-RED]

Ludicrous, but it’s as much the new handball rule as VAR that’s the problem there. Same as our disallowed winner against Everton.

It was Oliver in the VAR box & he needed common sense there; yes by the letter of the law & the new handball rule its off; but come on have a bit of sense on these decisions.

[vlahka]

When I was young I always thought offisde was deemed if the attackers foot was passed the defenders foot line. I swear this is how it should be.

[dom9]

It was Oliver in the VAR box & he needed common sense there; yes by the letter of the law & the new handball rule its off; but come on have a bit of sense on these decisions.

I'm not sure I agree. The law is the law, and referees have to implement it.

That said, the law is an ass.

[dom9]

When I was young I always thought offisde was deemed if the attackers foot was passed the defenders foot line. I swear this is how it should be.

It's any part of the body you can legally play the ball with.

[Mark79]

It was Oliver in the VAR box & he needed common sense there; yes by the letter of the law & the new handball rule its off; but come on have a bit of sense on these decisions.

It’s not a subjective rule though. Offside is a black and white decision with VAR. You’re either off or on. Oliver was correct in process, it’s just that the process is bull****.