VAR thread

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3 mins in to the game too, absolute game changer

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Who has updated his WIKI page ;o)

Paul Tierney is a football referee and Man Utd fan who officiates in the English Premier League. He first officiated in the Premier League on 30 August 2014. Tierney was promoted to the FIFA list of Referees on 1 January 2018. Wikipedia

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That is exactly why VAR was bought in, the on-field ref either missed the incident or didn't appreciate what had happened; the VAR must intervene at this point & its a straight red.

They are too busy worrying about 1mm offside calls to see the real incidents

Its an absolute shocker TBH & should be retrospectively reviewed & the VAR official needs to understand that these type of incidents is the whole point of him being in existence …

EDIT: & then i see who the VAR was........... Referee: Paul Tierney. Assistants: Lee Betts, Neil Davies. Fourth official: Lee Mason. VAR: Stuart Attwell.

This is the thing that annoys me, who decides what is and what isn't looked at by VAR it seems fairly random, as you say these are the type of decisions VAR was brought in for. When it misses something like that this is where you feel the ability of the manager or captain or someone to ask for an incident to be reviewed by VAR is needed, but that's never going to happen.

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Also that and the Rashford penalty were in the same match wtf were the officials doing?

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its Atwell, he got laughed out of the football league & rocks up reffing prem games.........

He was hated in the championship, due to be completely inept

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The interaction and harmony between the ref and the video ref in rugby is something football could and should learn from.
It’s so well done and as a fan you get the decision even if in some cases you don’t agree with it (usually reds for dangerous play). All explained and crystal clear.
The draconian **** we see from the PL is horrendous, get it wrong they double down on what they’ve done any halfwitted pundits dragged out to defend their decisions.

Var should be a step forwards but somehow they’ve managed to make things so much worse

It is definitely one of the most circular debates of all time.

I wonder if football is so arrogant that it does not realise that football fans also watch other sports that use the same tech. It is certainly not a debate I have ever heard. Bringing in an ex RU ref, say Nigel Owens to talk about implementation would surely enlighten the conversation about where VAR is going wrong and how it could be better. Nobody seems to be taking ownership of that discussion within football and the PL.

The fact is, it is all so mysterious. Zero transparency, zero culpability. It is a movable feast of rules and decisions and the fact that they have changed so much within a season almost devalues the whole product. We have seen some absolute shockers this season, howlers that were supposed to be eradicated. That Sheff Utd one for example is ridiculous.

And this one is about as bad as it gets. Offside for pointing to where he wants the ball. Backing the tech as opposed to the game.

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It is definitely one of the most circular debates of all time.

I wonder if football is so arrogant that it does not realise that football fans also watch other sports that use the same tech. It is certainly not a debate I have ever heard. Bringing in an ex RU ref, say Nigel Owens to talk about implementation would surely enlighten the conversation about where VAR is going wrong and how it could be better. Nobody seems to be taking ownership of that discussion within football and the PL.

The fact is, it is all so mysterious. Zero transparency, zero culpability. It is a movable feast of rules and decisions and the fact that they have changed so much within a season almost devalues the whole product. We have seen some absolute shockers this season, howlers that were supposed to be eradicated. That Sheff Utd one for example is ridiculous.

And this one is about as bad as it gets. Offside for pointing to where he wants the ball. Backing the tech as opposed to the game.

I honestly think that there is something in the lack of awareness of other sports. I think that football and the FA/PL think that their sport is superior to everything else and by extension everything that they do is right or cannot be questioned. To me there is certainly an arrogance that the system is perfect and as such nothing needs to be explained because as they see it the process is perfect and the system is absolute (which clearly it isn't).

One thing that pisses me off about the FA in particular is they give the impression that they consider themselves above any other FA or ruling body, it feels to me almost imperialistic.

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I honestly think that there is something in the lack of awareness of other sports. I think that football and the FA/PL think that their sport is superior to everything else and by extension everything that they do is right or cannot be questioned. To me there is certainly an arrogance that the system is perfect and as such nothing needs to be explained because as they see it the process is perfect and the system is absolute (which clearly it isn't).

One thing that pisses me off about the FA in particular is they give the impression that they consider themselves above any other FA or ruling body, it feels to me almost imperialistic.

You wonder why England time and again loses the rights to host big international tournaments here. I'd say a large part of it is our representitives in the FA (and mass corruption)

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You wonder why England time and again loses the rights to host big international tournaments here. I'd say a large part of it is our representitives in the FA (and mass corruption)

I imagine that kind of attitude doesn't win you many friends, and as these things are essentially popularity contests it's unsurprising that they don't win any of these bids

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VAR interjects in the Leeds Southampton game.

Ref (Mariner) goes to the monitor and correctly changes his mind with regard to a pen decision he awarded.
Spent a decent amount of time looking at it. Forward looking for the foul etc......like the vast majority of pens awarded nowadays.




I'm baffled at the inconsistency.

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The problem with consistency is that if that had been a Rashford or a Kane he would not have changed the decision; in fact VAR probably would not have intervened

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The other thing they could do to ensure the amount of time taken isn’t such an issue is stop the bloody clock???

Watching the clock tick on whilst it all plays on is also ridiculous.

[Pablo]

VAR interjects in the Leeds Southampton game.

Ref (Mariner) goes to the monitor and correctly changes his mind with regard to a pen decision he awarded.
Spent a decent amount of time looking at it. Forward looking for the foul etc......like the vast majority of pens awarded nowadays.




I'm baffled at the inconsistency.

I heard that in our game he was checking if it was a red for Trent? They didn't even think it was worth a check if was actually a penalty. They were that sure about it. Not sure how true it is, but it's just as bad either way.

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I heard that in our game he was checking if it was a red for Trent? They didn't even think it was worth a check if was actually a penalty. They were that sure about it. Not sure how true it is, but it's just as bad either way.

This is where people need to be told what they are checking and giving an explanation for the decisions, because it's now days later and people still don't know what the hell was going on

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