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    is it just the prem league ****ing it up or are other leagues suffering the finite tinkering/guesswork?

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      The Dutch do their own thing, and it seems better to me..

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        Once upon a time it was just the 3 officials on the pitch that could be corrupted but now there’s more. And they can bend imaginary lines to trick us into believing they are right. It’s a disgrace
        Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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          Yep, good shout this. As I’ve said before, VAR in itself is not an issue but the implementation of it. The PL’s implementation is piss poor.
          Are we winning?

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            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
            The Dutch do their own thing, and it seems better to me..

            https://www.sportbible.com/football/...01129.amp.html
            Absolute no brainier. Much better use of the tech.
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              Yep, but probably isn’t compliant with UEFA rules, but the Dutch don’t give a chuff I guess.
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                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                Yep, but probably isn’t compliant with UEFA rules, but the Dutch don’t give a chuff I guess.
                Yep, the interest here is in making the game fairer and better. As soon as the stupid lines come out with armpit locators the goal should instantly be given, and the way to prove it is as above.

                I was thinking yesterday that if they ever get to the stage of showing these decisions on screens in stadia there will be riots over decisions like that.

                And they do need to, as it keeps the process honest.

                Again, works in Rugby where the process is totally transparent and the refs mic’d which doesn’t stop them from making tough decisions. The culture is used to it.
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                  Seems like such an obvious an immediate improvement.
                  All those hairline 'offsides' would count, more consistency, easier for fans to understand the decision. Far less time ****ing around with VAR and maybe even a little more confidence to be able to celebrate goals.

                  No brainer.

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                    Could they also not make the lines drawn to where the foot lands not the shoulder? It’s called football, not armpit ball or Lean ball. The lines are drawn on the ground so just make them measure where the foot lands or is? All this shoulder:armpit nonsense is just... nonsense. The Jota one for me is miles onside. I’m not having the vertical line to armpit thing at all.
                    Last edited by Buzzo; 12-04-21, 05:57 PM.
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                      Yes, that too. You're unlikely to be gaining an advantage by leaning forward (head) or being sidewards on to goal (shoulder, armpit, t-shirt line, etc), at the point the ball is played.
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                        I guess it’s conceivable that someone could be almost an entire body length in front of a defender if going for a diving header.
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                          Doubt anyone will begrudge them that advantage if they're prepared to throw themselves for a diving header before a cross is even made.
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                            Originally posted by fidget View Post
                            Doubt anyone will begrudge them that advantage if they're prepared to throw themselves for a diving header before a cross is even made.
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                              Originally posted by fidget View Post
                              Doubt anyone will begrudge them that advantage if they're prepared to throw themselves for a diving header before a cross is even made.
                              I want to see this goal. Some sort of delayed scorpion kick?
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                                Goal ruled out in West brom game and var didn't have cameras in right place to rule in or out. ****ing joke.

                                Why can't everyone not watch football until it's kicked out. Easy.
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