VAR thread

[Exiled_red]

In the context of our result/disallowed goal at Spurs the idea of the game being replayed was laughed at.

Surely you could make a case for either of these incidents to be either a terrible VAR error or the laws of the game not being correctly applied.

[Norbs]

Or just alter the result to a draw to take account of the correct score. And if Spurs were to cry about it then offer to replay the game, over to you Spurs, you decide. The one thing for sure is that the outcome as it stands is wholly unfair

[Mr Pink]

Incorrect application of the rules rather than **** decision. I recall similar incidents where matches have been replayed because the ref got something wrong althought I can't recall the precise circumstances.

I know it is unlikely to happen but as an example, if a player scores an own goal from a goal kick the correct decisions is corner, not goal. Its that sort of thing.

I think the spurs fiasco is in a similar bucket to this though. It wasn’t that it was a poor judgement/error from the VAR. They meant to award the goal, but miscommunicated their decision. Surely a ref not awarding something that he intended to, is as bad a cock up, as him not awarding it because he didn’t know the rules well enough.

[S-RED]

not sure where to put this but cup final ref & VAR are:

it has now been confirmed that John Brooks will oversee VAR on February 25, with Marc Perry acting as his assistant.

Brooks was the referee who showed Virgil van Dijk a red card at Newcastle earlier this season and was the fourth official who Jurgen Klopp celebrated in front of when he strained his hamstring last year.

As for the referee overseeing the action on the Wembley pitch, that honour has been handed to Chris Kavanagh, who has taken charge of the Reds four times already this campaign.

[RoadEnd]

I know Marc Perry through work. I'll have a word

[Buzzo]

I know Marc Perry through work. I'll have a word

A client of mine knows him through work also! Insurance.

[Exiled_red]

It took a 6 minute VAR check for the goal in the Man Utd game

[baitman]

It took a 6 minute VAR check for the goal in the Man Utd game

I feel that with us the var are looking for reasons to disallow a goal, but with manure, Chelsea, arse, spuds and city they are looking to give it.

I'd like to see the utd replays and the var debate.

[S-RED]

need to mike them up & soon; they are guessing at every opportunity & they simply apppear unable or unwilling to be consistant.

Posted this in another thread before i saw this; but shows you all you need to know about game by game changing the way rules are implemented

[ame]https://twitter.com/Biggies_MaIIs/status/1762967976003678259[/ame]

[frank the tank]

That's total bollocks alright. ****in jokeshop

[Buzzo]

You can literally see Varane push. Endo didn’t move. You can argue the case for both, but not one and not the other and certainly not the way round that they did.

Embarrassing.

[Cerbie]

You can literally see Varane push. Endo didn’t move. You can argue the case for both, but not one and not the other and certainly not the way round that they did.

Embarrassing.

Let’s see how Webb justifies this one in his weekly review…

[spud_gun]

Consistency. That's what every football fan wants from the officials

[RichC]

Consistency. That's what every football fan wants from the officials

That's all it is really.

[Kenneth]

Thing is, it’s not possible to be consistent with the above decisions. Would the impeded players have been involved with the goal/prevention of the goal, that’s what the referees must decide? Not even Nostradamus can say, it’s unknowable. On a cross, the position of the defender, the direction they look like they intend to travel, maybe their height, their pace, their level of bravery, could all be contributing factors. The rules have created a completely ambiguous anomaly.

The old interpretation was that if you weren’t blocking the keeper’s view or trying to play the ball then you weren’t considered to be active and offside, then some ****house manager worked out you could stick a wall of players offside and have a goal scorer run from deep to play the system. The fix to this hack is to dump responsibility on refs to predict the future. When you piss around with rules and add complexity, you’re off down a rabbit hole of workarounds and tweaks until they eat themselves.

What is the point of offside? It’s to prevent goal hanging basically. I see no logical reason why we need to bother worrying about the position of anyone who isn’t involved with the process of putting the ball in the net, unless they are impeding the goalkeeper. If an attacker blocks a defender, give an indirect free kick if it meets the threshold for a foul.