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    Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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      Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
      Popped over to their forum to see how they reacted to the VVD header and decided AI needed to make an image...

      That's brilliant!!
      Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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        * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            Declan Rice is just a modern day Danny Murphy.
            "We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies."

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              I think Declan Rice is a brilliant player tbh. But this desperate, forced, false elevation that they continually strive for is what makes them so totally unlikeable.
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                Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                I think Declan Rice is a brilliant player tbh. But this desperate, forced, false elevation that they continually strive for is what makes them so totally unlikeable.
                This, I'd take Rice in a heartbeat, but this is comparison is stupid.
                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                  Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                  I think Declan Rice is a brilliant player tbh. But this desperate, forced, false elevation that they continually strive for is what makes them so totally unlikeable.
                  He’s a top class box yo box player, if you want to compare him to one of ours I’d say he’s more like peak Henderson. I’ve a lot of Arsenal mates and they are decent level headed guys, it’s the online contingent that are arseholes. We have plenty of those as well.

                  Saliba better than VVD
                  Gabriel better than VVD
                  Rice better than Gerrard
                  Raya better than Alison etc

                  Tge mad thing is that I don’t think Saliba is better than Tony Adam’s or Sol Campbell, or Raya better than Seaman, Viera is better than Rice and Henry/Pires better than Saka

                  If they knew their own recent history then they should compare to that

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                    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                    He’s a top class box yo box player, if you want to compare him to one of ours I’d say he’s more like peak Henderson. I’ve a lot of Arsenal mates and they are decent level headed guys, it’s the online contingent that are arseholes. We have plenty of those as well.

                    Saliba better than VVD

                    Gabriel better than VVD
                    Rice better than Gerrard
                    Raya better than Alison etc

                    Tge mad thing is that I don’t think Saliba is better than Tony Adam’s or Sol Campbell, or Raya better than Seaman, Viera is better than Rice and Henry/Pires better than Saka

                    If they knew their own recent history then they should compare to that


                    That's the only one that in time may become closer. Don't think Saliba will ever be better than peak VVD but if he continues to improve (and he only turned 24 this year so still a young CB) then the gap between peak Saliba and peak VVD might be as great as it currently is.

                    That's still not to say I think Saliba will reduce the gap enough for it to be a close run thing, but he is a quality defender and would have him in our team beside VVD in a heartbeat.


                    Rice is a funny one. The him vs Gerrard is just clickbait, and as you pointed out, they are very different players.

                    Gerrard was a individualist type player, whereas Rice is an amazing team player.

                    As for Rice vs Henderson ...... think I would pick Rice and by a distance.
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                      Originally posted by Doc_Piptorious View Post
                      That's the only one that in time may become closer. Don't think Saliba will ever be better than peak VVD but if he continues to improve (and he only turned 24 this year so still a young CB) then the gap between peak Saliba and peak VVD might be as great as it currently is.

                      That's still not to say I think Saliba will reduce the gap enough for it to be a close run thing, but he is a quality defender and would have him in our team beside VVD in a heartbeat.


                      Rice is a funny one. The him vs Gerrard is just clickbait, and as you pointed out, they are very different players.

                      Gerrard was a individualist type player, whereas Rice is an amazing team player.

                      As for Rice vs Henderson ...... think I would pick Rice and by a distance.
                      I'm not sure Rice is any better than peak Henderson - maybe he will get better but Henderson was one hell of a captain and indefatigable to boot.
                      "We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies."

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                        Saka is nowhere near Henry levels but he's better than Pires was, no?
                        Never knowingly optimistic

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                          Originally posted by Catrin View Post
                          Saka is nowhere near Henry levels but he's better than Pires was, no?
                          Stats wise they are very similar both getting about a goal every 3 games on average, having played around 270/280 games for Arsenal.Pires numbers are everso slightly better but he came in as an established player whereas Saka had done similar while still developing.At the moment I would say they are probably about the same level but Saka should get better and surpass Pires
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                            Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                            He’s a top class box yo box player, if you want to compare him to one of ours I’d say he’s more like peak Henderson. I’ve a lot of Arsenal mates and they are decent level headed guys, it’s the online contingent that are arseholes. We have plenty of those as well.

                            Saliba better than VVD
                            Gabriel better than VVD
                            Rice better than Gerrard
                            Raya better than Alison etc

                            Tge mad thing is that I don’t think Saliba is better than Tony Adam’s or Sol Campbell, or Raya better than Seaman, Viera is better than Rice and Henry/Pires better than Saka

                            If they knew their own recent history then they should compare to that


                            Our current ‘malaise’ is defo flushing out the bellends in our fanbase. It’s fine to discuss thoughts and the like as we do here but the total overreaction that is currently happening just highlights how spoiled we’ve been with insane winning runs over the last 7 or 8 years.
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                              Originally posted by DerKrampus View Post
                              I'm not sure Rice is any better than peak Henderson - maybe he will get better but Henderson was one hell of a captain and indefatigable to boot.
                              Rice is technically miles ahead of peak Henderson, he's a fantastic footballer & has one of the best all round skillsets in his position. We haven't even seen Rice's peak yet either but I'd take him in a heartbeat for LFC. Hendo was a grafter and a great captain, Rice is a grafter but he's a class act in terms of his footballing ability.

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                                Yeah, he’s better than Henderson was, just, but the Gerrard comparison is a joke.

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