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    #46
    Originally posted by AFII View Post
    Both Owen and Fowler played to many games to early in their careers IMO and that's why they ended up with a lot of injury problems.

    Messi already have injury problems for example.


    Good point... i agree, but isnt the same with messi... he suffers from a condition similar to dwarfism or something and was rejected by countless clubs before barce took a gamble..he will never be fully fit. anyway, got to be FOWLER for me but people seem to forget that owen kept us going for a good few years and won us sooo many points it was crazy. But i've never seen anything quite like fowler in those 4 or 5 years
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      #47
      Unfortunately I never thought Owen's heart was with us, just his wallet. Harsh I know but just how I fealt.

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        #48
        Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
        Fowler at his peak was capable of scoring ANY kind of goal – Owen wasn’t quite.

        It really, REALLY annoys me how quickly people have forgotten about Fowler and how good he was. Really ****ing annoys me. He was untouchable for a while – such a shame he never truly fulfilled all that potential.

        Fowler

        fully agree with you mate. I'm old enough to remember Folwer's career right from the start. I remember hearing about this young kid who was just banging on Souey's door to be given a start, second game he started he banged 5 in past fulham in the league cup. Fowler was so ****ing good, I really wish he kept fit and fullfilled his potential. At one point he was right up there as one the worlds best. He was (and still is) a stone cold killer infront of goal. His awarness of others and movement was right up there with Rushies and the King's. He had the potential but injuries and outside factors combined to rob him of the potential.

        As for Owen, well the lad had amazing pace, no fear and another killer infront of goal. But after his injuries the pace went, he doesnt have that fearlessness anymore (in the past he would just take on the def now he seems happy to check back in and pass the ball out) and he doesnt seem to have that killer instinct anymore (maybe due to lack of games over past 2 and a bit years. He also doesnt have anthing else in the armourey to beat the def.

        if they'd stayed fit I think Fowler would have out scored Owen.


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          #49
          Originally posted by anfieldanfield View Post
          Owen was a very, very good player for us.

          But a legend ? Nah, not for me...
          i think both at some point early on in their careers were well on their way to becoming legends, but they never quite reached that status. Who knows how good they could have become if they came through in the 70's/80's or evn now under Rafa.


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            #50
            Fowler, for so many reasons it isn't worth the debate.
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              #51
              Originally posted by Parm View Post
              i think both at some point early on in their careers were well on their way to becoming legends, but they never quite reached that status. Who knows how good they could have become if they came through in the 70's/80's or evn now under Rafa.
              Fowler's a legend. No question.

              Owen...well...er....maybe..

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                #52
                Originally posted by anfieldanfield View Post
                Fowler's a legend. No question.

                Owen...well...er....maybe..
                I'd love to think of fowler as a legend, but I think he fell a bit short. i think if he had played in say the 1987 team or the 1977 team and banged in the goals he would be a legend full stop. but he played in a flashy but ultimately unsuccessful LFC of the mid 90's and then became a peripheral figure under ged. I just think with his talent he was the right player for us, but came at the wrong time.


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                  #53
                  Originally posted by anfieldanfield View Post
                  Owen was a very, very good player for us.

                  But a legend ? Nah, not for me...
                  216 Liverpool Appearances
                  118 Liverpool Goals

                  Legend? Without doubt.
                  "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
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                    #54
                    Stats does not equal legend. Treating the club with respect and honour does.
                    Did you see the size off those chickens?

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                      #55
                      It's a really difficult question. Fowler is the most complete striker of them but Owen before his injury problems is the best striker I have seen. That's because he was so fast that he just left the defenders behind and he was clever enough to know how to use his speed.

                      If you compere Owen and Bellamy for example then the difference is that Owen timed his runs much better and Owen was faster than Bellamy is now.

                      A quick and clever striker is just impossible for a defender to live with.

                      Fowler is also a very clever player and much better in the air than Owen. He also have much better skill than Owen. Fowler is also the better link up player and better team player.

                      Rafa would probably be happy with a young Owen/Fowler combination upfront. I wonder how good that would have been?

                      Best striker combination ever?
                      Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                      According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Farside View Post
                        Stats does not equal legend. Treating the club with respect and honour does.
                        Fowler was involved in a number of incidents both on and off the pitch during his first spell at the club - bar room brawls, getting caught up in silly incidents of the pitch ie le saux clash.
                        "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
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                          #57
                          Fowler everytime for me. The lad is a legend in my eyes.
                          As someone mentioned on this thread, GOD would have had many more goals if it was not for his injuries.
                          As for Owen, well he'll never be a legend in many LFC fans eyes.
                          Good player yes, great no chance. He had more pride playing for England than Liverpool and that is where Fowler wins another point. The lad loved playin' in the RED infront of the KOP.
                          Supporters do not forget what Owen did in the summer Rafa joined. People forgive but don't forget, I am one of those.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Marky18 View Post
                            216 Liverpool Appearances
                            118 Liverpool Goals

                            Legend? Without doubt.
                            Owen a legend, never!. He might well be from your angle.

                            From a more mature angle, not a cat in hells chance of being amongst Liverpool's legends, great player, but defo NOT a legend, and when England is more important than Liverpool, then he can shove it where the sun don't shine.
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Marky18 View Post
                              Fowler was involved in a number of incidents both on and off the pitch during his first spell at the club - bar room brawls, getting caught up in silly incidents of the pitch ie le saux clash.
                              Yep, and he played for and cared for no other club like us.

                              That le saux clash was funny as.
                              Did you see the size off those chickens?

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                                #60
                                I can't forgive the way Owen left us either but I understand why he left.

                                He had a chance to join Real and we played boring football and wasn't looking like a team that could win anything other than the league cup(cc).

                                As I said, I can understand why he left but I can't forgive him the way he left but I would take a fit Owen back anytime because a fit Owen could help us winning #19 and also because he would then have been playing for us under Rafa's terms.
                                Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                                According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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