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[bazza76]

its a semantic argument only. zonal or man to man only determines what starting positions you take up. At the end of the day, If a defender reads the flight of the ball, runs quickly, jumps well and clears it then the situation is defended. its possible to do those things from either set up.

what determines how good any defence is is how well the individuals execute those techniques - not which set up the coach tells them to start from.

Yeah.
Rafa seems to have the lads knowing what their job is. Alot relies on the goalkeepers relationship wiith the defenders too though.

[Mattshark]

i guessed that - but football was played for quite some time before august 2006. Some of the current lfc team were even playing way back in those historical days.

Really, never would have guessed that, btw it is a complete misnoma that goldfish have very short memories, they don't.

[enema of the state]

Really? I'd have thought it's more than mere semantics but then I'm no expert.

you are to be congratulated for being such a modest man and being free of such vices as sarcasm

if you disagree with a forcefully stated opinion perhaps you should challenge it with information - in a similar way to which it was made - rather than trying to make yourself seem big and clever with the "wit" of your little dig.

just my opinion but then I'm no expert

[enema of the state]

Really, never would have guessed that, btw it is a complete misnoma that goldfish have very short memories, they don't.

how about sharks?

[Mattshark]

how about sharks?

Relatively intelligent, more so than most birds and a some mammals.

[Red_Polo]

Relatively intelligent, more so than most birds and a some mammals.

And what about Mattshark specifically?

[Mattshark]

And what about Mattshark specifically?

Very, my remark was just taken out of context and thanks to my exam today all I can thing bout is intertidal communitys and vicariance.

[Red_Polo]

Very, my remark was just taken out of context and thanks to my exam today all I can thing bout is intertidal communitys and vicariance.

[enema of the state]

Very, my remark was just taken out of context and thanks to my exam today all I can thing bout is intertidal communitys and vicariance.

mate have a



good luck with the exam. we need guys like you the cosequences of chippys running out of cod are just too bad to contemplate

[Neil Young]

you are to be congratulated for being such a modest man and being free of such vices as sarcasm

if you disagree with a forcefully stated opinion perhaps you should challenge it with information - in a similar way to which it was made - rather than trying to make yourself seem big and clever with the "wit" of your little dig.

just my opinion but then I'm no expert

Actually mate I was being serious. I don't understand how it's just a semantic difference.

[Mattshark]

mate have a



good luck with the exam. we need guys like you the cosequences of chippys running out of cod are just too bad to contemplate

I would but I have Animal survival stratergies on Wed and Fish Bio on fri, as much as I have an interest in fish, ionic regulaton at a cellular level is not my favourite area of study. But thank you.

[enema of the state]

Actually mate I was being serious. I don't understand how it's just a semantic difference.

the debate comes down to the meanings of "zonal" and "man to man"

people assume these terms subsume the whole process of how you defend a dead ball - they dont - they determine only where you start.

if you stood in random starting positions you could still judge where the ball is going where the attackers are running to and defend the set piece - you can make EXACTLY the same header in the same position from both set ups.

this argument comes up again and again and its root is in the meaning of the 2 terms - semantics

[Neil Young]

Thanks. So should I deduce that in zonal marking once the free kick or whatever has been taken then players leave their zones and not stay there for the second ball?

By the way, I know what semantics means, thanks.

[enema of the state]

Thanks. So should I deduce that in zonal marking once the free kick or whatever has been taken then players leave their zones and not stay there for the second ball?:

you should deduce that in zonal marking - or man-to man - the defenders need to react to the dynamics: flight of the ball, runs of the attacker etc - to defend successfully.

By the way, I know what semantics means, thanks.

I'm sure you do - i was explaining why i called it a semantic argument not teaching you the meaning of the word but if thats how you took it

[Neil Young]

OK, cheers.

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