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    Moores leaving present to Rafa?

    I'm doing some simple arithmetic which may not be as simple as it looks. However, according to the BBC Moores stands to walk away from the DIC deal with 75million quid having made an initial investment of 10 million quid.

    That's a 65 million quid profit.

    Given that Moores is a fan, how likely is it that he would say

    a) I've got my 10 million back
    b) I've had the privilege of being Chairman of Liverpool Football Club for all this time for free
    c) I could give this extra 65 million quid to Rafael Benitez for transfers in one lump sum

    What other costs have been incurred directly out of David Moores' pocket since being Chairman, and how much has it cost him?

    It seems on the face of it that Moores could give the transfer kitty a huge leaving present as a result of this DIC deal. If he wants to that is.

    Am I right on this? If so, how likely is it?

    I think that if you get involved in a football club for love as he did, then get to be Chairman for many years, and to be able to do it for free is a huge honour.

    A 65 million pound profit for this honour seems a bit steep. But given that his involvement is clearly for love not profit, why not just get his money back so he's not out of pocket and plough that profit back into the team to put us immediately back challenging again financially.

    Can anyone else drool at what we could do with a 65million pound transfer kitty this summer?
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    Surely his initial investment of £10million isn't all he's put into the club though?? Who finances transfers for example?
    I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
    There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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      #3
      Moores has been a fantastic Chairman, and it is only in the last couple of seasons we have been a bit short of money. Before that he has ALWAYS backed his Manager with plenty of cash, so I for one do not begrudge him one single penny out of that huge profit. Good luck to him - hope he stays on at the club and sees our club win that elusive No.19Championship.

      Now is the time for DIC to deliver.
      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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        #4
        sorry to sound like a **** of an accountant, but 10 million back then was worth alot more than 10 million is now.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Fierce View Post
          Surely his initial investment of £10million isn't all he's put into the club though?? Who finances transfers for example?
          That's my question. I don't know enough about how the transfer cash is generated. Is it from Moores personal stash or is it just part of the LFC budget.

          I'm not having a pop at the bloke. I'm just wondering how much he's put in over the years over and above the 10 million.

          So long as that figure is less than 75 million it still poses the same issue. The likelihood that Moores would backhand the club the difference.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Rocket View Post
            sorry to sound like a **** of an accountant, but 10 million back then was worth alot more than 10 million is now.
            Not 65 million more though surely?

            If he'd have put that 10 million into any other investment it would be unlikely to be worth 75 million today.

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              #7
              in 1990 when i was a nipper, a can of pepsi in my local happy shopper, was about 25p, now, its about 60p.

              so his initial 10 million is probably worth something like 25 million now

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                #8
                Originally posted by looprevil View Post
                Moores has been a fantastic Chairman, and it is only in the last couple of seasons we have been a bit short of money. Before that he has ALWAYS backed his Manager with plenty of cash, so I for one do not begrudge him one single penny out of that huge profit. Good luck to him - hope he stays on at the club and sees our club win that elusive No.19Championship.

                Now is the time for DIC to deliver.
                The question isn't whether I begrudge him it.

                The question is whether he'd be able to get his beloved club back challenging with an immediate cash investment that would still ensure that he's not out of pocket after his time with LFC.

                I'm curious that's all. I've been critical of some of Moores decisions in the past, but I sit near to him and it's obvious he's still a massive fan of the club. If I was already financially secure and suddenly got 65 million quids worth of free cash then I'd be tempted.

                I'm just trying to find out how much of that 65 million profit actually is profit. The BBC claimed he had a 10 mill initial investment, so I'm trying to find out how much more he'd have invested over the years simply by being Chairman and funding our transfers (if indeed he did fund our transfers).

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rocket View Post
                  in 1990 when i was a nipper, a can of pepsi in my local happy shopper, was about 25p, now, its about 60p.

                  so his initial 10 million is probably worth something like 25 million now
                  Which leaves a drool inducing 50 million which he'd be potentially able to give to Rafa as a leaving pressie without being out of pocket. Unless he's endured other operating costs along the way, which I'm curious to find out.

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                    #10
                    He'll walk away in his denim jeans with the whole caboodle
                    "What's your favourite Beatles album then?"
                    "I think I'd have to say....Best of the Beatles"

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                      #11
                      I would have thought that any money paid out on transfers by the club would have been financed and paid off by the club. I can't see that Moores would have personally paid for any of it, although he may have given guarantees that would cover the payments if the club was unbable to do so.

                      As far as his windfall goes, I can't see that he'd give the club £xm when somebody else is now in charge. Liverpool fan or not! He's not exactly going to benefit from giving his money away is he?
                      Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. Aaron Levenstein

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big Dave View Post
                        I would have thought that any money paid out on transfers by the club would have been financed and paid off by the club. I can't see that Moores would have personally paid for any of it, although he may have given guarantees that would cover the payments if the club was unbable to do so.

                        As far as his windfall goes, I can't see that he'd give the club £xm when somebody else is now in charge. Liverpool fan or not! He's not exactly going to benefit from giving his money away is he?


                        Why give a few M to the one of the richest sydicates in the world.

                        How many here would? and i bet all thoose that would will never be millionaires

                        Moores and Parry have come in for loads of stick last 2-3 years, yet they've been working on this deal for that time.

                        Time will tell if its the correct one, but out of all of them this is the one where I can see the least interferance with what goes on on the pitch and that has to be a good thing.
                        Its times like these we learn to live again FF

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by alunevans View Post

                          Given that Moores is a fan, how likely is it that he would say

                          a) I've got my 10 million back
                          b) I've had the privilege of being Chairman of Liverpool Football Club for all this time for free
                          c) I could give this extra 65 million quid to Rafael Benitez for transfers in one lump sum
                          Get a grip. Moores is entitled to walk away with his profits and will certainly do so. Good luck to him.
                          Fernando Torres

                          I dont just love him, I'm IN love with him

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by kopdan View Post
                            He'll walk away in his denim jeans with the whole caboodle
                            No.

                            He will swerve away out of the Shankly gates in his SUV, wearing pilot shades.
                            --== Because the gang and the government is no different ==--

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jazzmaster View Post
                              Get a grip.
                              No need. He was only asking the question.

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