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    Crouch is brilliant and anyone who doesn't see why either doesn't watch any matches, or when they do, picks up their car keys instead of their eyes on the way out.
    Such an ugly face, such an ugly mouth.

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      Originally posted by NICKZS View Post
      this thread is littered with personal jibes
      Plenty of those at me mate, but I'm not complaining?

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        Originally posted by ElRobbie View Post
        Plenty of those at me mate, but I'm not complaining?
        Cant really blame me for thinking that you may be dunk though can you?
        Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
        'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

        "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

        * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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          Originally posted by NICKZS View Post
          It does when you portray yourself as such, though. If you construct your argument in a collected and thought-out manner then you will get a far better response and debate out of it. There's nothing wrong with a little heated debate, but this thread is littered with personal jibes and minimal-to-zero thought provoking content.

          In any case, I hope Crouch goes on to convince you entirely that he is beneficial to Liverpool FC
          I've made plenty of constructive posts within this thread, have a read back through, I've explained myself, more than once, most of you just chose to ignore those bits, and still, whatever you say, not one of you has come up with a reasonable costructive argument that would make me think we can win the Premiership with Crouch.

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            Originally posted by ElRobbie View Post
            Plenty of those at me mate, but I'm not complaining?
            I don't know, are you? Was that a question?

            Point is, you came in with a gung-ho approach trying to make a case for argument and it fell apart like a tower of cards on new brighton promenade. I can't be arsed having petty arguments over the internet, so if you fancy making a considered and factual argument on Crouch's apparent ineptitude then give me a shout

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              Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
              Cant really blame me for thinking that you may be dunk though can you?
              I don't know enough about why you would think that so can't comment.

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                Originally posted by ElRobbie
                not one of you has come up with a reasonable costructive argument that would make me think we can win the Premiership with Crouch.
                Ok, how about the fact that we finished with more points in The Premiership last year, with Crouch as basically our first choice striker, than we ever did with absolute top quality finsihers like Owen or Fowler as first choice?
                I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                Now all my lies are proved untrue
                And I must face the men I slew.
                What tale shall serve me here among
                Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                  Originally posted by NICKZS View Post
                  I don't know, are you? Was that a question?

                  Point is, you came in with a gung-ho approach trying to make a case for argument and it fell apart like a tower of cards on new brighton promenade. I can't be arsed having petty arguments over the internet, so if you fancy making a considered and factual argument on Crouch's apparent ineptitude then give me a shout
                  It wasn't an open question.

                  It hasn't fallen apart mate, I've still not read anything to convince me he's good enough for title challenging team.

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                    Originally posted by ElRobbie View Post
                    I don't know enough about why you would think that so can't comment.
                    Because if he was to come on here, it woudl only be to stir ****, nothing else.
                    Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                    'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                    "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                    * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                      Originally posted by ElRobbie View Post
                      I've made plenty of constructive posts within this thread, have a read back through, I've explained myself, more than once, most of you just chose to ignore those bits, and still, whatever you say, not one of you has come up with a reasonable costructive argument that would make me think we can win the Premiership with Crouch.
                      OK, can we please knock this on the head. Who would have thought we would have won the Champions League with Traore not only in the squad, but playing every second of 120+ minute final against AC Milan? We could technically win the Premiership with Crouch in the squad without him even playing a game, why not? He is not exactly draining our wage budget, not causing any unrest. He is always there, waiting in the wings for whenever we need him. Why you can't see Crouch as a valuable squad member is absolutely beyond me, and clearly the vast majority of people who unfortunately stumbled upon this thread.

                      Round and round in circles...

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                        Originally posted by NICKZS View Post
                        OK, can we please knock this on the head. Who would have thought we would have won the Champions League with Traore not only in the squad, but playing every second of 120+ minute final against AC Milan? We could technically win the Premiership with Crouch in the squad without him even playing a game, why not? He is not exactly draining our wage budget, not causing any unrest. He is always there, waiting in the wings for whenever we need him. Why you can't see Crouch as a valuable squad member is absolutely beyond me, and clearly the vast majority of people who unfortunately stumbled upon this thread.

                        Round and round in circles...
                        Didnt you realise that every player on our books should be world class and nothing less?
                        We should have a squad of 22 world class players so we can choose from whoever we want at any time.
                        Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                        'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                        "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                        * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                          Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                          Didnt you realise that every player on our books should be world class and nothing less?
                          We should have a squad of 22 world class players so we can choose from whoever we want at any time.


                          We really should have a front-line of Shevchenkos shouldn't we

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                            Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                            Ok, how about the fact that we finished with more points in The Premiership last year, with Crouch as basically our first choice striker, than we ever did with absolute top quality finsihers like Owen or Fowler as first choice?
                            But still failed to break down the top teams, how many points did we pick up against Man Utd and Chelsea last season? 1 point from 12, even this season so far we've picked up 3 from 12 in our games against the 'top 4'. That's why we were behind them, so what you are saying really, in a way proves my point, we had a good season in terms of points, but if we had better results against the top 2 we could have done better, it was evident.

                            That's where our problem lies, having that extra bit of quality in those games (and others where we can't break teams down) would help us bridge the gap, that's my point.
                            Last edited by ElRobbie; 22-01-07, 01:54 PM.

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                              Originally posted by ElRobbie View Post
                              But still failed to break down the top teams, how many points did we pick up against Man Utd and Chelsea last season? 1 point from 12, even this season so far we've picked up 3 from 12 in our games against the 'top 4'. That's why we were behind them, so what you are saying really, in a way proves my point, we had a good season in terms of points, but if we had better results against the top 2 we could have done better, it was evident.

                              That's where our problem lies, having that extra bit of quality in those games (and others where we can't break teams down) would help us bridge the gap, that's my point.
                              Right, so what you are saying is that Crouch is very effective apart from when he is playing against the top 3. So why not have him in the squad for the other 32 games of the season??

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                                Originally posted by Kopite_Colin View Post
                                OK with a Transfer budget of 25 mill for this year (you would have to add £7m for Crouch from last year's budget, as he ws bought last year) = £32m

                                With what money we had on the table and on the books I would have done the following:

                                Bought RVN for £10m when available, or Owen for £16m
                                Bought Kuyt for £10m
                                Kept Cisse
                                Played Garcia as 4th striker
                                Added a cheaper younger striker to the books, or gone for a proven goalscorer such as Klose with a reasonable buy-out clause (which would be less than £12m)

                                that's reasonable. And far more consistent goals potential than we currently have in the squad.
                                or maybe Rafa could have spent it all on the worlds best striker.. Shevchenko

                                but no, Luckily Rafa knows what he is doing.

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