How do we compare?

[Shaggy]

We got spanked by them. We got taught a footballing lesson...

Two footballing lessons!

[The_weatherman]

Definitely something in the argument that some of our current players are less tactically aware than those he had in Spain. I think in part it is just more difficult to create the instincts needed in the Premier League as the pace is so much faster and fewer teams attempt to play football rather than just aiming to out muscle us.

I think that´s more to the point. If we compare the players straight I´m not sure Valencia has that much better starting XI, specially the spine of both teams. Angulo is good but I wouldn´t want him today not Mista, Torres, Marchena or Rufete either. They just fit into Rafa´s philosophy at the time so I feel we got the most important man from that team, after Rafa left the same team didn´t do very well. Now they have improved considerably with Joaquin, Albiol, Mori and Villa.

[Depth_Charge]

Two footballing lessons!

Is right!

[desertscouser]

Two footballing lessons!

I was in Ibiza for the first footballing lesson in Mestalla....can't remember any of the game as I was so battered.

[Shaggy]

I was in Ibiza for the first footballing lesson in Mestalla....can't remember any of the game as I was so battered.

You jammy *******.

[The Glove]

To be fair, didnt Diao play at centre Half that night?

[desertscouser]

He played centre half or right back. All I can remember of that night was that we were pretty sh!te and I pulled a blonde bird with huge t!ts.

[Shaggy]

To be fair, didnt Diao play at centre Half that night?

Aye, he played at centre back and Owen was left out for Heskey to play a lone role up front...sorry, a lone role on the left wing. With no-one up front.

He played centre half or right back. All I can remember of that night was that we were pretty sh!te and I pulled a blonde bird with huge t!ts.

[Ben_Itez]

They certainly played good stuff when they beat us in the Champions League, epecially at Anfield - we couldn't get the ball off them!

I was there and i have never before witnessed such a comprehensive victory for the away side at Anfield. It was only 1-0 (if i remember) but it may as well have been 10.....not that they created ****loads of chances but for the fact we created none and simply couldnt get hold of the ball. They went 1-0 up early doors and that was it - game over!

[tomasjj]

He played centre half or right back. All I can remember of that night was that we were pretty sh!te and I pulled a blonde bird with huge t!ts.

Played.

[enema of the state]

Two footballing lessons!

three footballing lessons

they came again in preseason and showed us once more just in case we werent paying attention the 1st 2 times.

[dirty_sanchez]

I wish people would stop raving about Vicente. He's a crock.

[puredale]

David Albelda would improve our team - very inteligent footballer.

[The_weatherman]

But where would play him instead of Carra or Agger, or in CM?

[Shaggy]

David Albelda would improve our team - very inteligent footballer.

Is he not about 32 now?