Carrick or Alonso - Who is better

[Shaggy]

Come on there's more to it than goal scoring stats...

For crying out loud, Javier who will take Alonso's place has hardly scored in his professional career.



Hehehe i've been spoiling for a proper battle all day... i'm sure i'll get a proper rise here. Giggle.

No chance of a rise over something so clear cut. Goalscoring might not be the most important facet of their games, but it's clearly important. Alonso contributes (although he should do more) in this area, Carrick doesn't.

Alonso is better tackler - a stat backed up by last season's 'tackling' stats.

He's also clearly a much better passer of the ball.

In terms of 'pace and mobility' there's little in it. Carrick is as one-paced as Xabi.

It's a total, TOTAL no contest.

[Bob]

No chance of a rise over something so clear cut. Goalscoring might not be the most important facet of their games, but it's clearly important. Alonso contributes (although he should do more) in this area, Carrick doesn't.

Alonso is better tackler - a stat backed up by last season's 'tackling' stats.

He's also clearly a much better passer of the ball.

In terms of 'pace and mobility' there's little in it. Carrick is as one-paced as Xabi.

It's a total, TOTAL no contest.

All very well. But Javier will replace Alonso in the team though?

[Colemere]

Carrick seems to go missing to often.

[Shaggy]

All very well. But Javier will replace Alonso in the team though?

Why should there be a definitive 'replace'? They'll both play lots of games, and I imagine many of them in tandem (4-2-3-1).

[thesilverfoxlfc]

There might be problems though if you have Javier,Xabi,Momo and Stevie all looking to play every game.

[Diego]

Imagine if the Mancs had Alonso instead of Carrick in their side, would they win every game?

yes they would just as they are doing now, alonso wins far more balls than carrick so he's better defensively, he's got better passes so he's a better playmaker, and as stated above he scores more goals (not that he scores enough, he should score more imo)...

imagine if Xabi had to set up for ronaldo and rooney, he'd have a field day, xabi in our team with better wingers and better strikers is hands down the best in his role, wich is distibuting and creating play...

[kurtangle01]

Why should there be a definitive 'replace'? They'll both play lots of games, and I imagine many of them in tandem (4-2-3-1).

I actually think that Mascherano, if he ever signs officialy, will play at the expense of Momo.

[Bob]

Why should there be a definitive 'replace'? They'll both play lots of games, and I imagine many of them in tandem (4-2-3-1).

Actually i seriously disagree with that formation, but forget that.

Just read the Mascherano BBC news article where he was quoted as saying, "have no rancour". Now i'm in love with his quick grasp of English... this boy is destined for greatness!

[Shaggy]

There might be problems though if you have Javier,Xabi,Momo and Stevie all looking to play every game.

There'll be no problem in getting three of them into the side at once. Obviously, at no time will we field all four.

[Shaggy]

I actually think that Mascherano, if he ever signs officialy, will play at the expense of Momo.

Well, I think Momo will be the one to "suffer" the most in terms of playing slightly fewer games.

He'll still play plenty though.

[Bob]

I actually think that Mascherano, if he ever signs officialy, will play at the expense of Momo.

He's a tailor-made Alonso-style player though, from what i've seen of him.

Momo is the hardest working player we have... i don't need any stats to see that. Consistent as well... the defense must love him in the team.

[Diego]

All very well. But Javier will replace Alonso in the team though?

don't believe he will, reckon he'll play beside him, reckon momo will be the one benched

[kurtangle01]

He's a tailor-made Alonso-style player though, from what i've seen of him.

Momo is the hardest working player we have... i don't need any stats to see that. Consistent as well... the defense must love him in the team.

I agree that he's our hardest working player but he needs to work on his distribution. He would still play plenty of matches though.

[Red Chilli]

Carrick is probably the best at speaking English

Debatable, he's a ****ing Geordie.

[Craig_H]

A lot of people laughed at that signing.

Looks like excellent business now.

I'd argue that the return of scholes and the upturn of form of ronaldo have had FAR more to do with them winning the title than carrick.