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    #181
    Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
    It's not a personal vendetta, as I have reitterated numerous times.

    I don't think he is a LFC type player though because of the way he shat on West Ham. Imagine if he does that to us in 6 months time and we've flushed 10 million quid down the ****ter. How will you feel then?
    There are certain types of players, mercenaries, which I would prefer LFC to steer clear of.
    See no-one else thinks he shat on WHU. Only you do! I don't see any hard evidence to support that hypothesis hence your conclusion is invalid. Sorry.
    The Crushing Machine MKII

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      #182
      Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
      So what if what shaggy said is true? What should he have done then? He'd have had no option than to leave. No?
      Well no-one put a gun to his head asking him to sign for West Ham. He seemed remarkably content with the deal when he signed it.
      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
      (1995)
      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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        #183
        OK, if I'm reading this right, the FA have stated that they appreciate LFC's transparency in this deal, and doesn't breach the FA's rules (ie the player is not owned by a third party). So who owns him if he's on loan for 18 months? West Ham?

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          #184
          Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
          See no-one else thinks he shat on WHU. Only you do! I don't see any hard evidence to support that hypothesis hence your conclusion is invalid. Sorry.
          What do you call it then when you sign for a club, don't get selected, so you whinge and moan until FIFA make a special ruling to allow you to break your contract?
          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
          (1995)
          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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            #185
            Originally posted by Kronenburg1892 View Post
            OK, if I'm reading this right, the FA have stated that they appreciate LFC's transparency in this deal, and doesn't breach the FA's rules (ie the player is not owned by a third party). So who owns him if he's on loan for 18 months? West Ham?
            It says we own him on an 18 month contract. No loan deal. He has apparently severed all links with West Ham.
            Originally posted by Gordon Brown
            (1995)
            "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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              #186
              Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
              What do you call it then when you sign for a club, don't get selected, so you whinge and moan until FIFA make a special ruling to allow you to break your contract?
              to be fair I don't remember him whinging and moaning...and I think a guy who played every game at the world cup for one of the top teams is entitled to expect some playing time at a club doing as ****e as West Ham were/are
              "the correct decision would have been a penalty for us a red card for Gattuso and a yellow for Stevie"

              LF Clove aka AFII 11/10/07

              "i personally hold you and several other gob****es responsible for the chaos this club is in"

              Revo on DJS

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                #187
                Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                What do you call it then when you sign for a club, don't get selected, so you whinge and moan until FIFA make a special ruling to allow you to break your contract?
                Ok, Ok. Show me a direct quote from El Jefe where he slags off WHU.
                The Crushing Machine MKII

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                  Well no-one put a gun to his head asking him to sign for West Ham. He seemed remarkably content with the deal when he signed it.
                  He didn't have a choice, he was owned by a "third party" not by the previous club, and was told where to go to maximise the profits of one man (agent etc), hence why it has taken so long to get the paperwork cleared and why WHU will eventually be docked points.
                  http://www.retroreds.co.uk/

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                    What do you call it then when you sign for a club, don't get selected, so you whinge and moan until FIFA make a special ruling to allow you to break your contract?
                    The difference here, is that it was the club's policy not to select him. Nothing to do with ability.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                      It says we own him on an 18 month contract. No loan deal. He has apparently severed all links with West Ham.
                      So...

                      is this really clever dealings by Rafa to prize him away from MSI through using FA rules?

                      Is he now independant of MSI?

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                        #191
                        Originally posted by Kronenburg1892 View Post
                        So...

                        is this really clever dealings by Rafa to prize him away from MSI through using FA rules?

                        Is he now independant of MSI?
                        Apparently so, for 18 months, but Kia Joorbachian has the option to resign him after 18 months if he doesn't agree an etension with us.
                        Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                        (1995)
                        "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                          #192
                          So we can now add "Masher Basher" as a term to the trend of supporters who dislike certain players plying their trade in a Red shirt, ah well, there are those that will defend our players to the bitter end, and there are those to like to use their time less productively it seems.

                          Each to their own.
                          http://www.retroreds.co.uk/

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                            #193
                            Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
                            Ok, Ok. Show me a direct quote from El Jefe where he slags off WHU.
                            Well I can't quote him (can't be arsed to look) for "slagging them off" but I do remember him saying how he has to move as not playing is bad for the development of his football. That equates to whinging in my book.
                            Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                            (1995)
                            "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                              #194
                              But the wast ham fans don't feel shat on!!!! it feels more like he was brought under fals pretenses, kia was going to buy the club, and cooked up a very funky transfer deal, witch mach had no part in, then kia doesn't take controlle of the club and west ham can't live up to the deal and he's put in the cold...
                              "I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

                              "You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto

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                                #195
                                Originally posted by lfc4ever View Post
                                So we can now add "Masher Basher" as a term to the trend of supporters who dislike certain players plying their trade in a Red shirt, ah well, there are those that will defend our players to the bitter end, and there are those to like to use their time less productively it seems.

                                Each to their own.
                                Call it what you want, I don't like the way he's conducted himself in the last 6 months, I think it's shoddy behaviour from a professional.
                                If the only way you can handle that fact is by name-calling then go right ahead
                                Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                                (1995)
                                "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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