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Liverpool trump Real Madrid for Malaga's Alcala
tribalfooball.com - March 01, 2007

Liverpool have trumped Real Madrid for Malaga's exciting youngster Pedro Alcala.
AS says a deal for the 18 year-old centre-half could already have been signed thanks to the work of Liverpool's scout in Spain, Paco de Gracia.

Real Madrid had been following Alcala for over a year, but were baulking at paying a compensation fee to Malaga for the teen. Liverpool have since stepped in and settled on an agreement similar to what took Francisco Duran to Anfield last month.

Alcala is still playing on a youth contract and agreed to the Liverpool switch as the Premiership giants were the only suitor, including Malaga, willing to offer him pro terms.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=30584

[AFII]

[Maestro]

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Richards--Carra----Alcala----Insua
------Alonso----Mascherano
Gerrard-----Klose----------Riise
------------Bellamy

[DeeGame]

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Richards--Carra----Alcala----Insua
------Alonso----Mascherano
Gerrard-----Klose----------Riise
------------Bellamy

Leave it to our expert

[Shaggy]

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Richards--Carra----Alcala----Insua
------Alonso----Mascherano
Gerrard-----Klose----------Riise
------------Bellamy

[keniget]

Don't we have a few too many CB's in the reserves as it is?

I'm all for signing youngsters, but they need to play and get opportunities eventually.

[PLY]

It's in AS as well -
http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Li...daiftb_46/Tes/

El Liverpool ha arrebatado al Real Madrid el fichaje del central juvenil del Málaga Pedro Alcalá (18 años; 1,88 metros). Éste podría tener firmado ya un contrato con los reds gracias a la labor de Paco de Gracia, actual colaborador de Rafa Benítez y antiguo responsable de la cantera madridista junto a Ramón Martínez y Alberto Giráldez.

El Madrid ha desaprovechado la ocasión de fichar a uno de los valores de futuro más prometedores del fútbol español al no querer desembolsar ninguna cantidad de dinero más allá de la que debería pagar por los derechos de formación del central, que actualmente juega en el juvenil de la División de Honor.

El Madrid lleva realizando durante esta temporada un exhaustivo seguimiento al jugador y ha negociado en varias ocasiones con José Plaza, su representante, pero no ha llegado a un acuerdo.

Alcalá, que recaló en el club presidido por Fernando Sanz este verano procedente del Ranero juvenil, quiere mejorar su situación contraactual ya que, a pesar de que se entrena asiduamente con el primer equipo y que ya ha entrado en una convocatoria en Segunda (hace dos jornadas ante el Numancia), aún tiene contrato juvenil. Alcalá desea ya uno profesional y el único que se lo ofrece es el Liverpool, como ya hizo hace unos meses con otro malaguista: Francis Durán.

Reunión.
El Málaga aún confía en poder convencer al central para que continúe su progresión en La Rosaleda. Eso sí, mejorando sus condiciones. Esta tarde, sin ir más lejos, se preve una reunión entre el presidente del Málaga, Fernando Sanz, el entrenador del primer equipo, López Muñiz, y el propio futbolista para intentar llegar a un acuerdo utópico, porque en Liverpool ya se frotan las manos...

Tres centrales se irán del Castilla
Michel quería fichar a Alcalá ya que la temporada que viene el Castilla contará con varias bajas en el centro de la defensa. En ella ya no estarán Sergio, Santacruz ni Ángelo, que terminan contrato y deberán buscarse una salida, ni Sergio Sánchez. Éste formará parte de la primera plantilla siempre y cuando el Madrid pague al Espanyol la opción de compra que tiene por él por cinco millones de euros. Se quedarán en el filial Agus y Tébar.

And the crappy translation:

The Liverpool has snatched al Real Madrid the acquisition of the youthful head office of the Malaga Pedro Alcalá (18 years; 1,88 meters). This would be able to have signed already a contract with the reds thanks to the work of Paco of Grace, present collaborator of Rafa Benítez and old responsible for the quarry of Madrid next to Ramón Martínez and Alberto Giráldez.

The Madrid has wasted the occasion to put on file to one of the most promising values of future of the Spanish soccer al did not want to disburse any quantity of money beyond the one that should pay for the rights of formation of the head office, that at present plays in the youthful one of the Division of Honor.

The Madrid carries carrying out during this season an exhaustive monitoring al player and has negotiated in several occasions with José Plaza, its representative, but has not arrived at an agreement.

Alcalá in which saturated in the club presided by Fernando Sanz this summer originating in the Ranero youthful, wants to improve its situation contraactual since, in spite of the fact that is coached assiduously with the first team and that already has entered an assembly in Second (does two days before the Numantia), still has youthful contract. Alcalá desires already one professional and the unique one that it he is offered is the Liverpool, as already caused some months ago with another malaguista: Francis Durán.

Meeting. The Malaga still trusts in being able to convince al central so that continue its progression in The Rosaleda. That yes, improving its conditions. This afternoon, without going further, a meeting among the president of the Malaga is predicted, Fernando Sanz, the coach of the first team, López Muñiz, and the own footballer to try to arrive at an utopian agreement, because in Liverpool already they rub the hands...

Three head offices itself Iran of the Castile Michel wanted to put on file to Alcalá since the season that the Castile comes will include several drops in the center of the defense. In her no longer they will be Sergio, Santacruz neither Ángelo, that finish contract and they should be sought an exit, neither Sergio Sánchez. This will form part of the first staff whenever the Madrid pay al Espanyol the option of purchase that considers he for five million euro. They will remain in the subsidiary one Agus and Tébar.

[Neil Young]

------------Reina
Richards--Carra----Alcala----Insua
------Alonso----Mascherano
Gerrard-----Klose----------Riise
------------Bellamy

I can't believe you're putting Insua at left back. Surely we've got someone younger.

Come on Rafa, if they're old enough, it's legal, er, now wait I don't mean that...

[Sir Bob]

All these young signings are all very well but its very very rare that they come off. Since the GH days we must have bought about 15 or so of these young players but how many have had any sort of impact. The only 1 I can think of is the much derided Djimi Traore!!!

Its not just us though. When was the last time Man U or Chelsea bought a promising youngster who really made the grade? I'm not counting Rooney or Ronaldo here as they were already pretty well known and were bought for big money. Even the much heralded Arsenal kids still have it all to prove to me. They've done well so far but doing the business game after the game is a different kettle of fish to playing weakened sides in Cup competitions.

[John_Gotti]

It's in AS as well -
http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Li...daiftb_46/Tes/

El Liverpool ha arrebatado al Real Madrid el fichaje del central juvenil del Málaga Pedro Alcalá (18 años; 1,88 metros). Éste podría tener firmado ya un contrato con los reds gracias a la labor de Paco de Gracia, actual colaborador de Rafa Benítez y antiguo responsable de la cantera madridista junto a Ramón Martínez y Alberto Giráldez.

El Madrid ha desaprovechado la ocasión de fichar a uno de los valores de futuro más prometedores del fútbol español al no querer desembolsar ninguna cantidad de dinero más allá de la que debería pagar por los derechos de formación del central, que actualmente juega en el juvenil de la División de Honor.

El Madrid lleva realizando durante esta temporada un exhaustivo seguimiento al jugador y ha negociado en varias ocasiones con José Plaza, su representante, pero no ha llegado a un acuerdo.

Alcalá, que recaló en el club presidido por Fernando Sanz este verano procedente del Ranero juvenil, quiere mejorar su situación contraactual ya que, a pesar de que se entrena asiduamente con el primer equipo y que ya ha entrado en una convocatoria en Segunda (hace dos jornadas ante el Numancia), aún tiene contrato juvenil. Alcalá desea ya uno profesional y el único que se lo ofrece es el Liverpool, como ya hizo hace unos meses con otro malaguista: Francis Durán.

Reunión.
El Málaga aún confía en poder convencer al central para que continúe su progresión en La Rosaleda. Eso sí, mejorando sus condiciones. Esta tarde, sin ir más lejos, se preve una reunión entre el presidente del Málaga, Fernando Sanz, el entrenador del primer equipo, López Muñiz, y el propio futbolista para intentar llegar a un acuerdo utópico, porque en Liverpool ya se frotan las manos...

Tres centrales se irán del Castilla
Michel quería fichar a Alcalá ya que la temporada que viene el Castilla contará con varias bajas en el centro de la defensa. En ella ya no estarán Sergio, Santacruz ni Ángelo, que terminan contrato y deberán buscarse una salida, ni Sergio Sánchez. Éste formará parte de la primera plantilla siempre y cuando el Madrid pague al Espanyol la opción de compra que tiene por él por cinco millones de euros. Se quedarán en el filial Agus y Tébar.

And the crappy translation:

The Liverpool has snatched al Real Madrid the acquisition of the youthful head office of the Malaga Pedro Alcalá (18 years; 1,88 meters). This would be able to have signed already a contract with the reds thanks to the work of Paco of Grace, present collaborator of Rafa Benítez and old responsible for the quarry of Madrid next to Ramón Martínez and Alberto Giráldez.

The Madrid has wasted the occasion to put on file to one of the most promising values of future of the Spanish soccer al did not want to disburse any quantity of money beyond the one that should pay for the rights of formation of the head office, that at present plays in the youthful one of the Division of Honor.

The Madrid carries carrying out during this season an exhaustive monitoring al player and has negotiated in several occasions with José Plaza, its representative, but has not arrived at an agreement.

Alcalá in which saturated in the club presided by Fernando Sanz this summer originating in the Ranero youthful, wants to improve its situation contraactual since, in spite of the fact that is coached assiduously with the first team and that already has entered an assembly in Second (does two days before the Numantia), still has youthful contract. Alcalá desires already one professional and the unique one that it he is offered is the Liverpool, as already caused some months ago with another malaguista: Francis Durán.

Meeting. The Malaga still trusts in being able to convince al central so that continue its progression in The Rosaleda. That yes, improving its conditions. This afternoon, without going further, a meeting among the president of the Malaga is predicted, Fernando Sanz, the coach of the first team, López Muñiz, and the own footballer to try to arrive at an utopian agreement, because in Liverpool already they rub the hands...

Three head offices itself Iran of the Castile Michel wanted to put on file to Alcalá since the season that the Castile comes will include several drops in the center of the defense. In her no longer they will be Sergio, Santacruz neither Ángelo, that finish contract and they should be sought an exit, neither Sergio Sánchez. This will form part of the first staff whenever the Madrid pay al Espanyol the option of purchase that considers he for five million euro. They will remain in the subsidiary one Agus and Tébar.

How I miss these crappy translations from KT!!!

[dww]

All these young signings are all very well but its very very rare that they come off. Since the GH days we must have bought about 15 or so of these young players but how many have had any sort of impact. The only 1 I can think of is the much derided Djimi Traore!!!

Its not just us though. When was the last time Man U or Chelsea bought a promising youngster who really made the grade? I'm not counting Rooney or Ronaldo here as they were already pretty well known and were bought for big money. Even the much heralded Arsenal kids still have it all to prove to me. They've done well so far but doing the business game after the game is a different kettle of fish to playing weakened sides in Cup competitions.

The thing is that Arsenal have had considerable success bringin players through - Eboue, Toure, Senderos, Cliche, Djourou, Fabregas were all bought in as youngsters and have played significant roles either in the first team or as squad players. People however seem to fail to see a/ how long it took Arsenal to get to this stage, b/ quite how many players they bring in and c/ how much they spend on some of these prospects (I believe Traore and Denilson cost £8m+ between them).

People get excited about each prospect as if they were a sure thing. The very reason Rafa is bringing in so many is that he knows that isn't the case.

There are also certain people who seem to think that the progress from great prospect to first team player is automatic and that all players need only a season in the reserves before being magically transformed into Premiership ready players.

[Maestro]

The thing is that Arsenal have had considerable success bringin players through - Eboue, Toure, Senderos, Cliche, Djourou, Fabregas were all bought in as youngsters and have played significant roles either in the first team or as squad players. People however seem to fail to see a/ how long it took Arsenal to get to this stage, b/ quite how many players they bring in and c/ how much they spend on some of these prospects (I believe Traore and Denilson cost £8m+ between them).

People get excited about each prospect as if they were a sure thing. The very reason Rafa is bringing in so many is that he knows that isn't the case.

There are also certain people who seem to think that the progress from great prospect to first team player is automatic and that all players need only a season in the reserves before being magically transformed into Premiership ready players.

All very true - but something else to note about Arsenal and their kids....they've won nothing yet.

[Morph]

All very true - but something else to note about Arsenal and their kids....they've won nothing yet.

thats cos wengers a muppet tho, and plays a team of kids v chelseas first string, at least rafa would have the sense to mix it up a bit

[Maestro]

thats cos wengers a muppet tho, and plays a team of kids v chelseas first string, at least rafa would have the sense to mix it up a bit

Muppetism has no place on these boards - cut it out!

[Morph]

Muppetism has no place on these boards - cut it out!

eh?