Interesting news...

[desertscouser]

I wonder how Everton might feel about a possible ground share?

They would be absolutely delighted. I can't imagine what sort of shack they'd rustle up if they had to build a new stadium on their own.

[Maestro]

I wonder how Everton might feel about a possible ground share?

[Lecter]

We've got 30,000+ on the season ticket waiting list and a combined 10,000 fancard holders get turned away on the phones, e-season ballot and online sales.

I still think 60,000 is too small for us, I think we would fill a 70,000 seater stadium for most games..

My brother went on the stadium tour last week with a client and he said the tour guide stated that the season ticket waiting list was actually 58,000

We have apparently had 6,000 applicants already during 2007

There is also a waiting list for the executive boxes

[Rich]

I think what we shouldn't lose sight of was the original constraints on the Stadium project.

As a club we weren't "rich", we were desperate to increase capacity, and it HAD to remain local to the existing stadium - hence 61,000 seats.

Now, with the new owners things may have changed. The money is now there to build pretty much whatever is required, in the grand scheme of things £9m in public money is peanuts to them, majority of the fans are beginning to realise that to create a stadium fit for LFC going forward perhaps Stanley Park isn't an area large enough to house a huge stadium.

I'm with RS4, that personally, a move to Speke, which has far better transport links and huge amounts of space would be better for this club in the long run. It would also enable us to keep more of the old Anfield Stadium as a memorial, wouldn't it be nice to maybe keep the existing Kop Stand, and turn Anfield into a stadium for the community? Sports facilties and the like there.

[Trousers]

here it is anyway if any of ya want a read from a few years back:

Also, as far as i am aware, the target was once at 77,000 for the new stadium.

That was Mcnulty who did that interview. The whole investment thing at that time was never needed if the club had borrowed the money on the strength of season ticket sales we would now have a exbandable 60,000 capacity new stadium and David Moores would still be owner all of this would have been ours for half the price of what we are paying now.

Yes we would have had to wait for planning permission but the money from the NWDA would have been there straight away because the only reason they witheld the money was because they wanted liverpool to show them how they were paying for the new stadium and that it would definately be built. Liverpool didn't do this until very recently when they announced the DIC deal.

Had they gone to the banks then with the idea for a loan based on season ticket sales they would have had cash thrown at them.

The reason they didn't is unclear, my belief is that that when GH had the two bad seasons were they didn't qualify for the Cl in one year and only just in his last year, that they **** themselves on how they would pay back the loans if Liverpool took a turn for the worse.This I believe was short sighted Arsenal have released statements that say they have doubled their turnover per match at the emirates.

As you can see fro my sig I have no time for Parry and while he is at the club incompetence won't be far away.

I just say this is but my opinion on Parry other's may disagree but I believe as far as football and Liverppol FC in particular is concerned he is the ****ing antichrist

[bazza76]

My brother went on the stadium tour last week with a client and he said the tour guide stated that the season ticket waiting list was actually 58,000

We have apparently had 6,000 applicants already during 2007

There is also a waiting list for the executive boxes

new owners said the same thing

[Lecter]

I think what we shouldn't lose sight of was the original constraints on the Stadium project.

As a club we weren't "rich", we were desperate to increase capacity, and it HAD to remain local to the existing stadium - hence 61,000 seats.

Now, with the new owners things may have changed. The money is now there to build pretty much whatever is required, in the grand scheme of things £9m in public money is peanuts to them, majority of the fans are beginning to realise that to create a stadium fit for LFC going forward perhaps Stanley Park isn't an area large enough to house a huge stadium.

I'm with RS4, that personally, a move to Speke, which has far better transport links and huge amounts of space would be better for this club in the long run. It would also enable us to keep more of the old Anfield Stadium as a memorial, wouldn't it be nice to maybe keep the existing Kop Stand, and turn Anfield into a stadium for the community? Sports facilties and the like there.

You have just raised some other points the tour guide said to my brother

Firstly that the pitch would remain green space, it cannot be dug up or altered significantly because its "hallowed" ground due to the number of ashes sprinkled on it

Secondly the Centennary Stand building is supposedly staying and once rennovated accordingly will be given over to the local community for meetings / conferences etc..

[Dhav]

Mate rest assured you are not the only one who is not overly enamoured with Parry.

[Jayesh87]

A born-again north Liverpool

Mar 13 2007

EXCLUSIVE by Neil Hodgson & Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

WELCOME to the new north Liverpool.

These amazing images show how Anfield, Everton and surrounding areas will be transformed with millions of pounds of regeneration money.

Funds to be invested in areas including Anfield and Great Homer Street were today tipped to fuel massive economic regrowth, potentially outstripping the rebirth of the south of the city.

City regeneration leader John Kelly is promising to attract even more investment to the area, unveiling a hi-tech vision of the city’s future at the world’s biggest property convention today.


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The Mipim conference in the French Riviera resort of Cannes will see more than 25,000 industry movers and shakers view Liverpool’s plans this week.

The Liverpool stand will include displays by private sector partners of three huge developments:

* Peel Holdings, the company behind the £5.5bn Liverpool Waters scheme.

* Laing O’Rourke, which is working on LFC’s new stadium.

* St Modwen, which is responsible for the Great Homer Street regeneration, dubbed Project Jennifer.

Project Jennifer will see the transformation of a 45-acre site covering the Scotland Road and Great Homer Street area, including the Taylor Street industrial estate.

In the next five years, ageing buildings and abandoned shops will be razed to the ground and replaced with modern homes, a library, market and 24-hour supermarket.

Peel Holdings wants to build its £5.5bn Liverpool Waters scheme on Central Docks, gradually transforming the area over the next 50 years.

Creating around 17,000 jobs and providing homes for 50,000 people, the development would be linked to the city centre by a monorail running from a new Merseyrail station at Vauxhall to the city’s airport.

The 21m sq ft scheme would see more than 50 buildings, many more than 50 storeys high, individually designed by leading architects from around the world to ensure a mix of styles.

Mr Kelly said the developers’ presence sent a clear message that Liverpool was once again competing on the world stage in terms of exciting new developments to create a 21st century city.

He told the ECHO: “There’s huge investment going into north Liverpool, which wasn’t the case five years ago.”

He believes the area has the potential to easily outstrip development projects started with the creation of Speke Garston Development Company in 1996, to spearhead the regeneration of south Liverpool.

He said: “The potential is far greater, when you look at the £5.5bn Peel scheme, the £250m Anfield project, £150m for the Great Homer Street programme, £200m for the housing market renewal initiatives, the £50m still ongoing in the strategic investment area on North Shore and public investment like the £30m going into the Breckfield city academy.

“It’s really about coming out here with our private sector partners from Liverpool and showing we’re as confident as anyone else about the future of the city.”

Mipim visitors will be shown a virtual reality tour of the transformations, including a fly-through of the proposed new LFC stadium.

Mr Kelly said the developers’ presence sent a clear message that Liverpool was once again competing on the world stage in terms of exciting new developments to create a 21st century city.

He told the ECHO: “There’s huge investment going into north Liverpool, which wasn’t the case five years ago.”

He believes the area has the potential to easily outstrip development projects started with the creation of Speke Garston Development Company in 1996, to spearhead the regeneration of south Liverpool.

He said: “The potential is far greater, when you look at the £5.5bn Peel scheme, the £250m Anfield project, £150m for the Great Homer Street programme, £200m for the housing market renewal initiatives, the £50m still ongoing in the strategic investment area on North Shore and public investment like the £30m going into the Breckfield city academy.

“It’s really about coming out here with our private sector partners from Liverpool and showing we’re as confident as anyone else about the future of the city.”

Mipim visitors will be shown a virtual reality tour of the transformations, including a fly-through of the proposed new LFC stadium.


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It takes supporters on a four-and-a-half minute journey around Stanley park, giving a brief taster of what the completed £215m development should become.

Yesterday, the ECHO showed the first visible signs of the start of work on the scheme – pre-construction explorations beneath the park’s surface.

But the digital tour indicates what awaits fans on the opening day of the 2009-10 season.

The fly-through starts with a 360-degree rotation through tree-lined Stanley park, with the 61,000-seater stadium in the distance.

It then closes in on the main entrance for a close-up examination of the exterior walls, before soaring upwards for a view of the pitch and banks of red seats. Later on, the view circles over new football pitches due to be laid in the park itself.

The tour concludes with shots of the ground lit up at night.

The current pre-development exploratory work includes drilling bore holes into Stanley park to check the ground structure.

The main project itself is expected to start shortly, once the club and Liverpool council have ironed out any remaining planning and legal issues.

As well as the stadium itself, a range of regeneration plans have been put in place, which will be carried out at the same time as the ground is built.

They include the repair and restoration of park bridges, walls, pavilions, lodge and Isla Gladstone conservatory, as well as a new multi-use games area, tennis courts and lake.

The ground includes a replacement for the Vernon Sangster sports centre, expanded museum and tour centre, conference suites, club offices and underground car park.

Political Reporter Nick Coligan says...

HE most encouraging aspect of the proposed rebirth of north Liverpool is that these are not pie-in-the-sky schemes.

Two of them – New Anfield and Project Jennifer – already have council planning permission and, in theory, work can start any day.

It is crucial that the city unites behind the Liverpool Waters project, the most complex and expensive of the three.

It would be a shame if Kirkdale and Vauxhall missed out on north Liverpool’s property boom because of red tape and planning rows.

The city must make sure it sees these major schemes through.

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[PLY]

Take a look at the slightly newer video

http://videos.icnetwork.co.uk/icliverpool/New_Anfield.wmv

[Michael]

61000 - 70000 ....... I am more worried about what the thing is going to look like..... We all want a unique stadium..... not just a production line modern stadium built using a calculator!

http://www.stadiumguide.com/josedealvaladenew.htm

More than anything we want to be within 5 yards of the touchline.


By the way ..... wembly looks pretty cool even though it is a fairly common shape..... i think it is the size of the thing that is most impressive.

[alunevans]

and wait till ya check this out:

If its true that the old board would limit the stadium capacity ie the long term life blood of the club for years to come, for a couple of short term signings then thank God someone else is now running the club.

[Dhav]

If its true that the old board would limit the stadium capacity ie the long term life blood of the club for years to come, for a couple of short term signings then thank God someone else is now running the club.

And thank God someone else is the manager

[bazza76]

If its true that the old board would limit the stadium capacity ie the long term life blood of the club for years to come, for a couple of short term signings then thank God someone else is now running the club.

Exactly.
I thought at the time it was an absolute joke, my stance hasnt changed on that. I couldn't believe they were putting a few signings ahead of the home of the club which would have far more significance than signing the likes of Diao.

[enema of the state]

Any drastic changes to that will be subject to a renewed planning application

building a new stadium is a 4 year project.

there is nothing to stop the initial construction steps following the approved planning regs but ALLOWING an even larger construction if the planning permission is subsequently modified.

This happens all the time in both the uk and usa - especially if women are involved in the building design and keep changing their minds

i accept it would be a big deal to change this planning permission but i'd venture that the yanks have a good couple of years to work on it before the basic construction cannot any longer be modified sizewise. Its almost certainly possible that the approved designs might allow a 10000+ capacity extension to be built on the complete stadium.

no problem here people.