Reds’ plan to match United

[cannotmakeit]

As romantic as it would be to stay in Anfield and as much as the area desperately needs regeneration it's obvious that the majority of local residents don't seem to want a new, bigger stadium on their doorsteps. So why not take this opportunity to start again. As somebody said the other day, let's literally go back to the drawing board and reconsider all the other options such as Speke (my preferred choice), Aintree or Kirkby

HKS (or RyderHKS as the UK Division is called) are replacing AFL as the architects as I predicted last weekend. Give them a blank piece of paper and tell them to "go build a world class stadium" in an area that wants it, has the roads and the transport links and where there will be less opposition from blue-nosed councillors. Who cares if we don't have the stadium for a few more years? For once, let's think like a big club and just ****ing do it properly...

fully agree with you, said this the other day.

[bazza76]

I presume the space that is saved will allow more seats to be put in place where the box would be

[IJM]

I presume the space that is saved will allow more seats to be put in place where the box would be

Actually, I think you'll still end up with executive boxes in the stands in the "traditional" manner. It's just that you can also have another full set of boxes underground for little stand space and get twice the income or more from executive clients (which is worth a serious amount of money).

[Red Chilli]

As romantic as it would be to stay in Anfield and as much as the area desperately needs regeneration it's obvious that the majority of local residents don't seem to want a new, bigger stadium on their doorsteps. So why not take this opportunity to start again. As somebody said the other day, let's literally go back to the drawing board and reconsider all the other options such as Speke (my preferred choice), Aintree or Kirkby

HKS (or RyderHKS as the UK Division is called) are replacing AFL as the architects as I predicted last weekend. Give them a blank piece of paper and tell them to "go build a world class stadium" in an area that wants it, has the roads and the transport links and where there will be less opposition from blue-nosed councillors. Who cares if we don't have the stadium for a few more years? For once, let's think like a big club and just ****ing do it properly...

It's a good point RS4. By staying in the Anfield area we leave ourselves open to the same problems which have been holding the ne stadium back all these years. Had we taken the decision to move when we were consistently the best team in Europe we'd be way ahead of United in terms of development.
THis opportunity does not come around very often and we are at risk of repeating the same mistakes as the past. I don't want to leave Anfield either but we must put the future of the club first, mustn't we?

[The_weatherman]

Since we are leaving Anfield anyway does it matter if the club isn´t at the same street. In my eyes, as an OTT'er, Anfield was/is exactly that, the stadium. I know it is IN Anfield but as long as Liverpool is in Liverpool I don´t care if it´s Speke or Anfield or whatever. But I know, I´m an OTT'er...what do Liverpudlians want though?

[red g]

Since we are leaving Anfield anyway does it matter if the club isn´t at the same street. In my eyes, as an OTT'er, Anfield was/is exactly that, the stadium. I know it is IN Anfield but as long as Liverpool is in Liverpool I don´t care if it´s Speke or Anfield or whatever. But I know, I´m an OTT'er...what do Liverpudlians want though?

a lacoste shellsuit?

[NICKZS]

As romantic as it would be to stay in Anfield and as much as the area desperately needs regeneration it's obvious that the majority of local residents don't seem to want a new, bigger stadium on their doorsteps. So why not take this opportunity to start again. As somebody said the other day, let's literally go back to the drawing board and reconsider all the other options such as Speke (my preferred choice), Aintree or Kirkby

HKS (or RyderHKS as the UK Division is called) are replacing AFL as the architects as I predicted last weekend. Give them a blank piece of paper and tell them to "go build a world class stadium" in an area that wants it, has the roads and the transport links and where there will be less opposition from blue-nosed councillors. Who cares if we don't have the stadium for a few more years? For once, let's think like a big club and just ****ing do it properly...

I understand what you are saying from an economic point of view, but I would hate it for Liverpool to move out of the north end of the city where its heart is truly rooted. A ground in Speke would make sense in terms of available space and the area's willingness to have it built but match days would feel hollow and the ground would be surrounded by faceless industrial developments. Moving from Anfield the stadium is bad enough, but moving out of Anfield the area and to the other end of the city would be terrible in my opinion.

I fully sympathise with the residents who are worried about infrastructure but Anfield has been a part of the area for over a century and is our spiritual home in all respects. Clearly adjustments need to be made but, for me, moving out of Anfield is an absolute non-starter.

[nobbylad]

Since we are leaving Anfield anyway does it matter if the club isn´t at the same street. In my eyes, as an OTT'er, Anfield was/is exactly that, the stadium. I know it is IN Anfield but as long as Liverpool is in Liverpool I don´t care if it´s Speke or Anfield or whatever. But I know, I´m an OTT'er...what do Liverpudlians want though?

I agree....even if the new stadium is built in Stanley Park, it wouldn't be called Anfield anyway because we're likely to sell off the name.

From a logistical point of view, any site that is better served by travel links etc and allows us to build a better stadium should be considered.

I'm with RS4 on this one, I don't care where it is as long as it's done right and is still within the Liverpool area.

It's Liverpool Football Club, not Anfield football club.

[rushscored4]

It's a good point RS4. By staying in the Anfield area we leave ourselves open to the same problems which have been holding the ne stadium back all these years. Had we taken the decision to move when we were consistently the best team in Europe we'd be way ahead of United in terms of development.
THis opportunity does not come around very often and we are at risk of repeating the same mistakes as the past. I don't want to leave Anfield either but we must put the future of the club first, mustn't we?

Since we are leaving Anfield anyway does it matter if the club isn´t at the same street. In my eyes, as an OTT'er, Anfield was/is exactly that, the stadium. I know it is IN Anfield but as long as Liverpool is in Liverpool I don´t care if it´s Speke or Anfield or whatever. But I know, I´m an OTT'er...what do Liverpudlians want though?

Both Red_Chilli and myself are Liverpudlians although I've lived away from home for a quarter of a century...

Apart from some die-hard traditionalists (who probably don't want us to move at all) I think many scousers won't care where the stadium is as long as it's easy to get to and it isn't a soulless bowl with no pubs nearby like Man Citeh's new ground.

[Neil Young]

Reds’ plan to match United

For a moment there I thought we were going to hand back three European Cups.

[Nicey]

I am liking the yanks more and more

[NICKZS]

Both Red_Chilli and myself are Liverpudlians although I've lived away from home for a quarter of a century...

Apart from some die-hard traditionalists (who probably don't want us to move at all) I think many scousers won't care where the stadium is as long as it's easy to get to and it isn't a soulless bowl with no pubs nearby like Man Citeh's new ground.

I wouldn't class myself as a die-hard traditionalist (too young for that!), but I do have a season ticket and I would hate to move from Anfield. If it was a completely necessary element of the new ground's development then obviously there would be little argument from me, in the end. But I love Anfield, both the stadium and the area, on a match day and could not picture myself going to Speke to watch the mighty Reds. It would feel entirely wrong for me and I would hate for Liverpool to move anywhere beyond Stanley Park, never mind the other end of the city.

[nobbylad]

I wouldn't class myself as a die-hard traditionalist (too young for that!), but I do have a season ticket and I would hate to move from Anfield. If it was a completely necessary element of the new ground's development then obviously there would be little argument from me, in the end. But I love Anfield, both the stadium and the area, on a match day and could not picture myself going to Speke to watch the mighty Reds. It would feel entirely wrong for me and I would hate for Liverpool to move anywhere beyond Stanley Park, never mind the other end of the city.

I think I probably said something similar about the Kop was never gonna be the same once they introduced seating.

Fact is, time moves on, things change and if it comes down to a decision between staying in the Anfield area and not challenging for major honours (including the league year on year), or moving to somewhere else in Liverpool and having the infrastructure to support such a challenge....I know what I'd rather have.

[NICKZS]

I think I probably said something similar about the Kop was never gonna be the same once they introduced seating.

Fact is, time moves on, things change and if it comes down to a decision between staying in the Anfield area and not challenging for major honours (including the league year on year), or moving to somewhere else in Liverpool and having the infrastructure to support such a challenge....I know what I'd rather have.

And in fairness it never has been, by all accounts (I only stood on it twice when I was a kid). The introduction of an all-seated Kop was absolutely necessary and if, as I say, moving elsewhere in the city was seen as necessity then I suppose there wouldn't be much else to say on the subject. But whilst we have the oppurtunity to stay in the area and, as I believe we do, have the potential to challenge for the league (we can already challenge for every other major honour) with a stadium below 70,000, I would not consider moving to Speke, Aintree etc.

I am fully prepared to change with the times to allow the club to put itself back where it belongs, but not if we are going to be relinquishing almost all of the heritage we have done so well to hold onto. I know that this is only my personal opinion which is why I am not trying to represent the fanbase as a whole, but the reds I do know and travel to the match with would agree with me on this.

[Jayesh87]

For a moment there I thought we were going to hand back three European Cups.