"The only goal the fans have ever scored...

[carrsim]

in my experience is the one which beat us two years ago at Liverpool,"

jose yesterday on the pressure of the mestalla crowd

how i chuckled

i'm still undecided about who i'd rather face but its nice to know that every now and then jose wakes up at night cursing the power of anfield and proper fans

[CincyRed]

How do they continue to ignore the fact that even if it wasnt over the line, it was a penalty and sending off for Cech?

[Nicey]

I love it ..

[friedk]

How do they continue to ignore the fact that even if it wasnt over the line, it was a penalty and sending off for Cech?

especially after the ref confirmed this.

[Meursault]

Well in, Jose! For this, you deserve to meet us again in the semis and get beat by another goal scored by the fans.

[Maestro]

Well in, Jose! For this, you deserve to meet us again in the semis and get beat by another goal scored by the fans.

As much as that would be sweet, I really want Valencia to take care of business tonight.
My ideal SF lineup would be Roma v Bayern and Valencia v LFC
with us beating Munich scum in the Final 3-0 with Robbie coming off the bench to get the last goal to seal a 3-0 rout in the 90th minute and then making a SIX fingered salute to us in the stands!



I can dream, can't I?

[Abro100]

especially after the ref confirmed this.

Got a link per chance.

[AFII]

[Dhav]

Sorry mate - I'm not buying that. Real video footage of the actual incident? Everyone knows Sky's virtual simulation is far more accurate than the real thing.

[Abro100]

well was it lol?

[Los Rojos]

Looks in to me

[Dhav]

Looks in to me

I refer you, once again, to Sky's much-more-accurate-than-the-real-thing simulation.

[Los Rojos]

I refer you, once again, to Sky's much-more-accurate-than-the-real-thing simulation.

[Neil Young]

I refer you, once again, to Sky's much-more-accurate-than-the-real-thing simulation.

Who is the Chelsea player with the blond afro?

[Dhav]

Motion expert says Garcia's shot did cross the line
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Nick Harris, The Independent (London), 5 May, 2005, Final Edition; SPORT; Pg. 77


The moment captured on camera




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if images remain static)
Liverpool's controversial winner against Chelsea on Tuesday crossed the line and was a valid goal, an expert in motion analysis and 3D shape modelling said yesterday.
Dr Mike Spann, a lecturer at Birmingham University's School of Electronic, Electrical and Computer Engineering, assessed a series of still images, taken from a variety of angles, at the moment of scoring and in the fractions of a second just before and after the ball crossed the line.

The positioning and body movements of Chelsea's William Gallas, who tried to clear Luis Garcia's shot with his right foot, as well as the movement of the ball relative to Gallas, led Dr Spann to conclude: "It was a goal."

The diameter of Tuesday's match ball, a size 5 Adidas Finale, was 22cm (or 8.8 inches) so Gallas' right boot needed to be only nine inches behind the line on impact for a goal. Dr Spann deduced from the position of Gallas' left foot that his right foot swung at the ball from "a good foot" behind the goalline, with the parabola before impact increasing the distance.

Dr Spann said it was theoretically possible to prove the goal with absolute certainty from television pictures, even if the cameras missed the right shot, but an analyst would need to know the precise calibration of the cameras as well as their exact positions to be certain using that method.

A Sky Sports computerised re-enactment suggested the ball failed to cross the line, while computer-generated images produced by Hawkeye and commissioned by ITV News last night indicated it may not have been a goal.

Such controversies will become history if a new Adidas ball, a "smartball", works in tests. It contains a microchip that notifies the referee when it crosses the line and will be tried out at the Under-17 World Youth Championships in Peru in September. If successful, it could be adopted in senior competitions within two years.

http://www.overcast.pwp.blueyonder.c...cia-gallas.htm