Sami Hyypia

[tomasjj]

he couldn't play 90 minutes full stop, he's fatter than dunk

[Craig_H]

I bet you couldn't play 90 minutes with a serious stomach infection

I couldnt play 90 minutes WITHOUT a stomach infection

But the fact remains, if he was THAT bad, he wouldnt have played.

No excuses for me, he got torn a new one by Drogba that day and would've most likely been rinsed for pace last night, had he played.

[Craig_H]

he couldn't play 90 minutes full stop, he's fatter than dunk

2 legs, and no wool...and you're instantly against me.

PS - you've never seen me in your life buddy.

[Biff]

Can we all stop this nonsense. Sami won't play. All players have a bad day at the office. How many of our top players performed in the 1st half yesterday...?

Probably only Pepe....the rest were all rather absent

[kanban111]

I think Sami's aerial ability is very underestimated,i personally don't think dogbreath would have got such an easy ride in the air as he did with Agger,i would play both of them,Agger at left back & double up on drogba when he's the obvious target man,he was the most obvious fifference for them last night & i'm surprised we didn't counter it from the bench,as good as Agger is,dogbreath is too powerfull for him,he is for most players.
Bottom line for me,Sammi needs to play,to at least challenge him in the air.

[Kopite_Colin]

As Chelsea are likely to only play 1 up (Drogba) I'd play 3 at the back and really go for it

-----------------Reina------------------

---Carra---------Hyypia-----Agger------

Pennant----Alonso------Masher-----Riise/Gonzo

-----------------Gerrard----------------

--------------Kuyt---Crouch------------

[Rigadon]

People seem to be forgetting how much Drogba destroyed Sami in the 1-4 defeat...

[kanban111]

That was one game mate,he had a bad day agreed but dogbreath was maybe unplayable that day but i still think the big fella would give him a much harder time in the air at least,Carra & Agger can't imo,i'd still play Agger,he can do the mopping up behind Sammi,Drogba can outpace all of our centre halfs but he'll find it much harder competing with Sammi in the air,i really think this is were the big fella is needed,we nullify Drogba then we nullify more than half the threat.
That's the way i see it anyway

[Neil Young]

As Chelsea are likely to only play 1 up (Drogba) I'd play 3 at the back and really go for it

-----------------Reina------------------

---Carra---------Hyypia-----Agger------

Pennant----Alonso------Masher-----Riise/Gonzo

-----------------Gerrard----------------

--------------Kuyt---Crouch------------

Why would you want three players to look after Drogba? If Chelsea go with just him up front then it would probably mean they would have two attacking players on the flanks like they did in Mourinho's first season (and to a lesser extent last season). In that case, either our wing backs would constantly be dragged deep (which would become harder and harder to do as the game wore on and which would largely nullify them as attacking forces) or our RCB and LCB would constantly be in danger of being pulled out wide possibly leaving Drogba one-on-one against, presumably, our slowest CB, Sami.

Maybe I have misunderstood how a three-man defence works but that's possibly partly because I haven't seen us play it too often (although I'll happily admit it's mainly because I'm no great expert on football tactics).

[dww]

Why would you want three players to look after Drogba? If Chelsea go with just him up front then it would probably mean they would have two attacking players on the flanks like they did in Mourinho's first season (and to a lesser extent last season). In that case, either our wing backs would constantly be dragged deep (which would become harder and harder to do as the game wore on and which would largely nullify them as attacking forces) or our RCB and LCB would constantly be in danger of being pulled out wide possibly leaving Drogba one-on-one against, presumably, our slowest CB, Sami.

Maybe I have misunderstood how a three-man defence works but that's possibly partly because I haven't seen us play it too often (although I'll happily admit it's mainly because I'm no great expert on football tactics).

No, I think you understand the system perfectly. There is a reason that none of the of th etop managers use a back three against anyone but ****box teams.

I really fail to see what people believe an extra centreback give us which is not better done by bringing the holding midfielder back or asking them to man mark in certain situations.

Having three centrebacks does nothng but reduce the number of threats on the pitch by one IMO. There is a case that a specialist sweeper could allow the fullbacks to attack more but to be honest there is very little difference between the role an old school sweeper played and that played by a modern holding midfielder. The difference being we have two players who are specialist holding midfielders and I can't think of a single specialist sweeper in the country let alone our squad.

[Neil Young]

No, I think you understand the system perfectly. There is a reason that none of the of th etop managers use a back three against anyone but ****box teams.

I really fail to see what people believe an extra centreback give us which is not better done by bringing the holding midfielder back or asking them to man mark in certain situations.

Having three centrebacks does nothng but reduce the number of threats on the pitch by one IMO. There is a case that a specialist sweeper could allow the fullbacks to attack more but to be honest there is very little difference between the role an old school sweeper played and that played by a modern holding midfielder. The difference being we have two players who are specialist holding midfielders and I can't think of a single specialist sweeper in the country let alone our squad.

Coming from you I take that as a real compliment.

[dww]

Coming from you I take that as a real compliment.

U may change your ideas if you see how we organise our five a side team

Having said that we won 11-2 today. I even scored a hat trick no less

[tomasjj]

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I really fail to see what people believe an extra centreback give us which is not better done by bringing the holding midfielder back or asking them to man mark in certain situations. [QUOTE]


Exactly, and this is what we started doing in the second half, crowding the area around Drogba to pick up the second balls.

That is, imo, the best way to deal with Drogba.

[Lecter]

Should he play instead of Agger in the second leg against Chelsea?

No

I think we are in a really difficult position

Personally I'd be tempted to play Momo in the 2nd leg and try and physically bully Chelsea

[SouthAfricaRed]

No

I think we are in a really difficult position

Personally I'd be tempted to play Momo in the 2nd leg and try and physically bully Chelsea

Momo is exactly the player we needed against Chelski. He was very good in CS and our League Games against Chelski. He would have stopped Drogba a long way out.