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    #16
    Originally posted by The_Milkman View Post
    It was in the Pink Echo over the weekend that Elias will NOT take Heighway's position and its more likely to be Alex Miller.
    NOT in title - because he already holds a post at lfc - and NOT in terms of day to day running of the academy side

    but elias IS the head man when it comes to developing youth talent into 1st team players

    thats what heighway was supposed to be

    thats what heighway has been a failure at
    drunk knows best

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      #17
      Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
      I think he had a slight dig at the amount of youth teams who actually get their chance yesterday in the post match interview saying that his captain was good enough for the first team. I would think he is still some way off, they were playing against boys last night, not men.
      Will be sad to see him leave, especially as he has such close ties with the club and has achieved alot as a player with us in the past.
      however, if there are not many getting their chances, we have to allow Rafa to set is up so there more who do get their chances. Id hate to see the team unity in the youths disappear though. Id like to see it as mostly local lads at youth level who grow up together, much like last night.
      One thing that was mentioned last night on the radio was that Heighway has always resisted bringing in kids from outside the Liverpool area to supplement / improve the Academy

      When Benitez arrived he put pressure on the board to bring in youth players from outside the area

      Last years youth team included Godwin Antwi, Jack Hobbs, Mikel Roque and Anderson and this youth team has included the keeper Hansen & the Berger look alike whose name escapes me. The guy on the radio said Heighway opposed this but had been forced to tow the line

      Also the Echo said the club employs over 100 scouts worldwide YET at least 80 of those work in the Liverpool area on youth recruitment

      IMO Heighway is relatively good at his job but in todays football hes too narrow minded.
      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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        #18
        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
        Whilst it is widely "believed" Elias would take over there was a piece on the Football Echo last week or the week before that suggested he wouldnt be taking over as he prefers the scouting / recruitment side of things
        elias will not take heiways title

        elias is (already) top man for youth development
        drunk knows best

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          #19
          Originally posted by enema of the state View Post
          NOT in title - because he already holds a post at lfc - and NOT in terms of day to day running of the academy side

          but elias IS the head man when it comes to developing youth talent into 1st team players

          thats what heighway was supposed to be

          thats what heighway has been a failure at
          Elias is in youth recruitment, Heighway is the Academy Director and coach

          They are NOW two entirely seperate jobs

          As has been mentioned by Milky the Echo suggested that Miller would more than likely become Academy Director with Elias keeping his current position

          The feeling in the Echo was that this would be a more dovetailed relationship than the current Elias / Heighway one
          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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            #20
            Originally posted by enema of the state View Post
            elias will not take heiways title

            elias is (already) top man for youth development
            They are two completely seperate briefs

            Elias recruits youth players from outside the area, Heighway is in charge of local recruitment and coaches them and oversees them
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              #21
              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
              Gary Mac?
              id love to believe that, not sure if he is ready for that though, or has ambitions to be a club manager, I think it would be good experience tfor him to watch Rafa though.
              Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
              'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

              "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

              * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                #22
                Originally posted by enema of the state View Post
                NOT in title - because he already holds a post at lfc - and NOT in terms of day to day running of the academy side

                but elias IS the head man when it comes to developing youth talent into 1st team players

                thats what heighway was supposed to be

                thats what heighway has been a failure at
                From what I've heard he only recruits he doesnt have ANYTHING to do with development that is the job of the Academy Director / Reserve Coach
                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                  From what I've heard he only recruits he DIDNT have ANYTHING to do with development that is the job of the Academy Director / Reserve Coach



                  wonder why that might have been?
                  drunk knows best

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                    They HAVE BEEN two completely seperate briefs


                    again, could a smart person like you hazard a guess as to why?

                    they ARE NOW two very tightly integrated briefs according to a senior member of lfc's coaching staff
                    drunk knows best

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by enema of the state View Post


                      wonder why that might have been?

                      Based on what the Echo says I reckon that Elias' role will be unchanged

                      As far as I can remember his work at Southampton was only with the recruitment side of things he wasnt involved with coaching or developing the players
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        Gary Mac?

                        I'd love that. Love to have him back at the club in some capacity- a great bloke, a great talent & a great example.
                        3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by enema of the state View Post


                          again, could a smart person like you hazard a guess as to why?

                          they ARE NOW two very tightly integrated briefs according to a senior member of lfc's coaching staff

                          I dont need it spelling out

                          Its obvious

                          Elias was involved in yout h recuirtment from outside the Merseyside area, Heighway has never been an advocate of that

                          Now Elias will work with someone who will not hamper him but I dont see it changing his role significantly. His brief will still be recruitment nothing more

                          Just an opinion
                          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                            Based on what the Echo says I reckon that Elias' role will be unchanged

                            As far as I can remember his work at Southampton was only with the recruitment side of things he wasnt involved with coaching or developing the players
                            if by that you mean he didnt run round in a tracksuit much then you might have a point. that is and was because hes the "boss" when it comes to recruitment and development of players for the 1st team
                            drunk knows best

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                              I dont need it spelling out

                              Its obvious

                              Elias was involved in yout h recuirtment from outside the Merseyside area, Heighway has never been an advocate of that

                              Now Elias will work with someone who will not hamper him but I dont see it changing his role significantly. His brief will still be recruitment nothing more

                              Just an opinion
                              as its told to me:

                              elias will work with someone who's agenda will not conflict directly with his

                              and who will be subordinate to him unlike the previous incumbent.

                              and who is not an ex-lfc great with a great deal of clout/respect with the club and fans (yet not really that good at his job)

                              just an opinion - but from somebody who ought to know for certain
                              drunk knows best

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by enema of the state View Post
                                if by that you mean he didnt run round in a tracksuit much then you might have a point. that is and was because hes the "boss" when it comes to recruitment and development of players for the 1st team
                                To develop a player he has to coach them or be involved with them day to day

                                It would be difficult to be heavily involved in recruitment whilst doing the development as well

                                I dont doubt what you have been told but I personally dont think hes involved with development whatsoever

                                They are two entirely seperate issues
                                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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