Jamie Carragher - above criticism?

[Guest]

Before the final, he was the best in the world, now we should bench him. Talk about knee-jerk.

Without Carra, we wouldnt have been in the final in the 1st place FFS.

That's not knee jerk at all but we need to improve, always. We sat on our arse being sentimental and look where we are.

[Dalglish]

not in my case pal

i've always thought of jamie as more heart than talent.

Maybe by watching on TV only I've missed something but that statement is IMO borderline insane.

[enema of the state]

Before the final, he was the best in the world

FFS

if there is actually anyone who held that opinion they belong in a psychitric ward

[Dalglish]

That's not knee jerk at all but we need to improve, always. We sat on our arse being sentimental and look where we are.

The sentimental point is a top one and has long been one of my main gripes about the way we are run. However I fail to see how that applies here.

[enema of the state]

Maybe by watching on TV only I've missed something but that statement is IMO borderline insane.

actually its pretty rational my good fellow

[Guest]

Yes, we should always strive to improve and yes I take your point re Ince etc however, its a little bit mental to suggest that carra is in anywhere ready to be moved on.

How many better centre halves are available?

I don't think that he's ready to be moved mate, certainly not. He's still young and can still improve and if we can bring someone who can challenge him, he will certainly do that. Carra's got a fantastic character.

And as you say, we must find someone his equal or better before yes, but nobody should be safe at a club like ours.

[enema of the state]

Yes, we should always strive to improve and yes I take your point re Ince etc however, its a little bit mental to suggest that carra is in anywhere ready to be moved on.

How many better centre halves are available?

lots - and we only need 1!

[Dalglish]

Who?

[Pacman]

What a load of balls. One dodgy pass and his first bad game in 5 years and suddenly it's get someone better in.

****ing hell

[enema of the state]

Who?

of the top of my head and being transferred this summer:

cannavaro, alex, gallas, marchena - theres many more

[enema of the state]

read the thread rudeboy

nothing knee jerk about my opinion

[Dalglish]

Alex - going to chelsea so not avialable

Cannavaro - dodgy season at Madrid

Gallas - Dont see how he would in any way improve on Carra

Marchena - never heard of him

[Lecter]

FFS

if there is actually anyone who held that opinion they belong in a psychitric ward

In your opinion

I actually think we'd be hard pushed to find a better centrehalf than Carragher

Anyone who thinks he only gets by on heart imo belongs in a psychiatric ward

Defensively the guy is EXTREMELY clever. He organises well is positionally better than anyone else we have in the team (by a country mile I might add)

Yes he isnt the best in possession and he aint the quickest but his anticipation is superb

If we can find better I have no qualms about replacing him but when people like Benitez, Baresi, Hansen, Lawrenson, T. Smith et al are all saying hes one of the best defenders in the world then he must have something that you are not seeing

[Shaggy]

of the top of my head and being transferred this summer:

cannavaro, alex, gallas, marchena - theres many more

Marchena is nowhere near the defender Carragher is.

I do think there's some validity in your comment about JC being more heart than talent, though. He'd say the same thing himself. Keegan came into the same bracket, but it doesn't matter whether their effectiveness stems from heart or talent - it's how effective they are as players that matters, and Carra is highly effective for us.

[enema of the state]

In your opinion

I actually think we'd be hard pushed to find a better centrehalf than Carragher

Anyone who thinks he only gets by on heart imo belongs in a psychiatric ward

Defensively the guy is EXTREMELY clever. He organises well is positionally better than anyone else we have in the team (by a country mile I might add)

Yes he isnt the best in possession and he aint the quickest but his anticipation is superb

If we can find better I have no qualms about replacing him but when people like Benitez, Baresi, Hansen, Lawrenson, T. Smith et al are all saying hes one of the best defenders in the world then he must have something that you are not seeing

if you think jc is the best CB in the world - may the force be with you.

give my best wishes to everyone else there in the ward with you