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    #46
    Originally posted by Joe Le Toff View Post
    For - Work rate, attitude, determination, team player.

    Against - Poor first touch, no pace, no technical ability, limited vision when in possession, not a prolific goalscorer, average at best in the air, one footed.

    Its a no-brainer for me, get the strikers we want and Dirk will be a squad player.
    Other than average in the air and taking into account he's been played as an AM, hence the prolific goalscoring, you could be describing Alan Shearer.

    Shows what IS possible.
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      #47
      Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
      Other than average in the air and taking into account he's been played as an AM, hence the prolific goalscoring, you could be describing Alan Shearer.

      Shows what IS possible.
      Eh?

      Shearer, while never grease lightnight, had some pace in his early days, was good in the air, scored **** loads of goals and had a good first touch.

      If Kuyt was half as good as Shearer was we'd be laughing.

      Sadly, he's not.
      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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        #48
        559 league games, 341 goals....we would all be laughing indeed.
        "In fact I’m going to make a promise which will be welcomed by many. If there’s no finance secured by the opening day of the season, I’m going to hang up my keyboard and close KOPTALK down." - Duncan Oldham, Expert Conman. March 29th 2006

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          #49
          Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
          Eh?

          Shearer, while never grease lightnight, had some pace in his early days, was good in the air, scored **** loads of goals and had a good first touch.

          If Kuyt was half as good as Shearer was we'd be laughing.

          Sadly, he's not.
          How do you KNOW. He hasn't played as a center forward yet.
          The Crushing Machine MKII

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            #50
            So who played centre-forward in the Champions League final then?
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              #51
              Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
              So who played centre-forward in the Champions League final then?
              Who scored?
              Javier Mascherano: 'I want to be settled and kill myself on the pitch so the team wins lots of games'

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                #52
                Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                So who played centre-forward in the Champions League final then?
                Picking a game he scored in is not really helping your case Shags
                Like blood on iron

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by stevie_gerrard_8 View Post
                  Who scored?
                  Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                  Picking a game he scored in is not really helping your case Shags
                  Haha. My point was he's played as a centre forward loads of times this season - I don't buy this "he's played in midfield" ****.
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                    So who played centre-forward in the Champions League final then?
                    The exception that proves the rule
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                      Haha. My point was he's played as a centre forward loads of times this season - I don't buy this "he's played in midfield" ****.
                      Shags when he was being played as a proper striker week in week out he was scoring every other game and coming up with assists as well. You can't deny his dip in form came when Rafa decided to play him deeper, in the kind of role we'd normally expect to see Garcia in. He's not a technically brilliant player but he does have core attributes that make him a really good player, put him alongside someone with more flair and he'll thrive IMO.
                      Like blood on iron

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                        #56
                        Hmmm. Too profligate for me. I'd love him to ram my comments back down my throat next season, but I'm not particularly impressed. I've seen elephants with a better touch than him, and having such technically limited strikers (we've had ****-loads of 'em in recent years) does my bloody head in.
                        Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                          #57
                          Kuyt is basically Heskey - with less goals.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                            Hmmm. Too profligate for me. I'd love him to ram my comments back down my throat next season, but I'm not particularly impressed. I've seen elephants with a better touch than him, and having such technically limited strikers (we've had ****-loads of 'em in recent years) does my bloody head in.
                            To be honest Shaggy I think he's been played as a second striker or very deep more often than not, how many times can you remember when he's played up top with Crouch, and Crouch gets the ball in the center circle only to find he can't knock it on because Kuyt is either alongside him or further back. If Kuyt played round the box more i think he'd have had another 5/6 league goals easily, but i think it's more to do with Rafa's tactics, the same could be said of Cisse but we wont go there
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                              Shags when he was being played as a proper striker week in week out he was scoring every other game and coming up with assists as well. You can't deny his dip in form came when Rafa decided to play him deeper, in the kind of role we'd normally expect to see Garcia in. He's not a technically brilliant player but he does have core attributes that make him a really good player, put him alongside someone with more flair and he'll thrive IMO.
                              aye
                              3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                                #60
                                I genuinely think Kuyt can be our 25/30 goal a season man, if he didnt go chasing all over the bloody pitch! If the team was set up right and he stay much nearer the box more of the time the goal would come. I think the thinking may be towards this way of playing, cue Andri Voronin. Heres a player who is intelligent and experienced, and could do a similar job that Teddy Sheringham did for united .making things happen around the penalty area. Just a thought.

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