Adam Hammill - Could he do a job for us

[El Jefecito]

I watched quite a few of his games for the Pars and while he's able to get past his man quite often his end-product is not so good yet. Still a candidate for the Carling cup if you ask me.

[Guest]

I watched quite a few of his games for the Pars and while he's able to get past his man quite often his end-product is not so good yet. Still a candidate for the Carling cup if you ask me.

That's what I thought in the first place. He needs to get a regular run of games in the Carling cup and his progress should be monitored from there. But it's up to him to make that step up for a first team place. He has the talent.

[El Jefecito]

That's what I thought in the first place. He needs to get a regular run of games in the Carling cup and his progress should be monitored from there. But it's up to him to make that step up for a first team place. He has the talent.

The real value of his time at the Pars has been the improvement in his attitude, according to their manager, he knows he has to sacrafice for the sake of the team and knows what it's like to fight fight fight for a result.

That's priceless. If he can sort out his final ball he'll be a squad player worth having around and maybe he can make the transition from squad player to first teamer. I do think he has it in him. The issue is gonna be is he gonna have the opportunity to take that last step up.

[Bob]

Hmmm...it's difficult to tell. I think if anyone is ready at this point it is him. It's clear he has matured as a player and person during his loan spell. Personally I'd look to have him in the mix this season.

But he's classically naive. I'm sure there are some great youtube clips because he is that type of reel player... attacking and skilful.

However during the course of the game he's more infuriating than the likes of Garcia on a bad day. Doesn't quite have the vision at times, is a bit too easy to knock off the ball and lacks the work rate (defensively)/fitness for a premiership game.

As i said, he's skilful enough to be a good prospect, but i get the impression he thinks he's better than he actually is. A season in the EPL would ruin his confidence, and at this stage of his career i'd prefer he got regular games!

Championship - nailed on for me.

[tomasjj]

Agreed.
you have to give them the chance to get ready too.
give him 5-10 games next year to bed in, then see if he gets ready for the PL.
Some of the learning has to be done by playing in the PL.

[El Jefecito]

But he's classically naive. I'm sure there are some great youtube clips because he is that type of reel player... attacking and skilful.

However during the course of the game he's more infuriating than the likes of Garcia on a bad day. Doesn't quite have the vision at times, is a bit too easy to knock off the ball and lacks the work rate (defensively)/fitness for a premiership game.

As i said, he's skilful enough to be a good prospect, but i get the impression he thinks he's better than he actually is. A season in the EPL would ruin his confidence, and at this stage of his career i'd prefer he got regular games!

Championship - nailed on for me.

Bob, you're being a bit of a pessimist, he's come on a long way since joining the pars and until given the opportunity we won't know whether he can take that final step. Playing in the SPL though is probably the best thing that has happened to him. I'd keep him in the squad because I think he can make it. He's competed well in the SPL which is very much a physical league ala the EPL.

He's not there yet, but then neither was Ronaldo a couple of years ago.

[dww]

I watched quite a few of his games for the Pars and while he's able to get past his man quite often his end-product is not so good yet. Still a candidate for the Carling cup if you ask me.

Sounds promising. I think he is unlucky as if we were a fully stable team who were already sure of 10 out of 11 players for a title challenging side then he might be given a sub place for a few games we were confident of winning. As it si we need to improve the first XI and I think it would be unfair to put that level of pressure on him.

It would be good to see him on loan at a good championship or attacking lower PL side.

[animal magic]

Buy Giles Barnes and let them have Hammill on loan.

barnes has said he is staying at derby

[El Jefecito]

Sounds promising. I think he is unlucky as if we were a fully stable team who were already sure of 10 out of 11 players for a title challenging side then he might be given a sub place for a few games we were confident of winning. As it si we need to improve the first XI and I think it would be unfair to put that level of pressure on him.

It would be good to see him on loan at a good championship or attacking lower PL side.

Reading would be the perfect team for him.

[kurtangle01]

Judging by the reports on him from Dunfermline it seems that he does have quite a bit of potential but I'm not sure he's ready for a full season in the prem.

[dww]

Reading would be the perfect team for him.

Good call. Who do they have wide - Convey, Seol, Little & Hunt I think. I imagine he would have to be as good as them if he is ever to make it.

It would be a good place to experience the PL.

[Bob]

Bob, you're being a bit of a pessimist, he's come on a long way since joining the pars and until given the opportunity we won't know whether he can take that final step. Playing in the SPL though is probably the best thing that has happened to him. I'd keep him in the squad because I think he can make it. He's competed well in the SPL which is very much a physical league ala the EPL.

He's not there yet, but then neither was Ronaldo a couple of years ago.

He's at an age where he needs regular football, given the summer we'll have he'll be lucky to get a few games in the Carling Cup. A full season in the championship will do him no harm at all.

Reading would be ideal, he could be used as a stop gap for that Sidgewell fella.

[Guest]

He's at an age where he needs regular football, given the summer we'll have he'll be lucky to get a few games in the Carling Cup. A full season in the championship will do him no harm at all.

Reading would be ideal, he could be used as a stop gap for that Sidgewell fella.

Good point. But the only way we're gonna find out if he's ready or not is to throw him at the deep end. A great run of games and his confidence could go up two notches.

But I guess, with the players coming in, he won't be having that chance.

[Bob]

But the only way we're gonna find out if he's ready or not is to throw him at the deep end.

I disagree.

[Guest]

I disagree.

At least we agree on that point.