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    Same old Liverpool = no title again !

    I dont post on forums often. I have watched what others post on various forums for years. Its gonna be a long one but i hope some people will read this.

    I am so frustrated with Liverpool fc at the moment. Rafa is a top manager, he can assess what the opponents will do and manage to create a masterplan to try and stop them, our biggest problem is we havent the players to take advantage of this. Liverpool have a good team, but not a great one. in terms of quality we are 4th in the league. Therefore we done well to finish 3rd !
    That is unacceptable ! This is why rafa came out with the statement that we have to act fast.

    Rick Parry, were are you ??? Every pre season i await the news that we have signed a top player. It never happens. It never happened when houllier was in charge either, he spend loads of money on crap but we never got a topman. We won the cup treable on 2001 and i thought this is it a few top world class players to push on, it never happened. Same in 2005 after istanbul. Rafa thinks it. When was the last time liverpool bought a world class proven player ?????. The nearest since Dalglish left as manager is Alonso, and most reds didnt know him until Rafa paid 10 mill for him. When did we buy the last Zidane, ronaldo, eto, ronaldinho type top player ????????

    We are a top club, we have the best fans and manager in europe. So why in every area do we act like a middle of the road outfit. The club shop is crap, the online shop crap, we are stuck in a timewarp. Liverpool fc is one of the biggest brands in the world but you go on the website and nothing is in stock. China, etc we could make loads.

    Parry, forget the tickets in the final that was bad enough but i havent liked him for years. Gerrard contract ?, alves fee ?, these are a few examples of when Parrys arrogance have cost the club. We need 5 top players i think and centre half as backup for carra, agger and sami. a left midfielder cos we havent got one worth talking about at the club, a right midfielder cos we only have pennant and a top striker. Tevez or Eto would be my choise. To win the league, i think we need to do it. No more maybe men, we need the real deal !. Rafa knows we need topmen, will the americans give the money and will Parry get off the lazy, arrogant backside. Only time will tell. If we dont get them though Rafa will leave, he done it at valencia he left, he loved it there but they couldnt match his ambition.

    Liverpool have a good team but its not good enough. Football has changed, money rules, even westham and villa spend it. If we dont move with the time s we will be left behind and we are to big for that !

    Without sending to negative, we are good, the sprit of the club is unrivaled, Shankly made it and Rafa is carrying it on. The Kop is special, the club is special, lets have a team that is worthy of the name LIVERPOOL F.C !!!!!!!

    Come on you reds !

    #2
    Let's wait for the transfer window to close before we slit our wrists.
    The Crushing Machine MKII

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      #3
      What pisses me off is all this blaming of Parry because we sign "crap" players.

      FFS, no-one puts a gun to the manager's head and says you must buy this **** player. If the manager thinks the player is crap then don't ****ing sign him.
      Keep the funds and sign a better player in the next ****ing window.

      All this attacking of Parry because we sign **** players is total bollocks. Rafa decides his own targets, if the players are ****-BLAME RAFA.
      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
      (1995)
      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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        #4
        mascherano,alonso,agger,reina, are all top players. Sometimes top players dont cost 20 plus million.

        So what if we didnt get alves, parry was right not go higher, he aint worth 15 or 16 million.

        I would wait till the summer is over and il only go mad when rafa leaves which could happen but letss wait a month or two

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          #5
          you are right fair comment the manager decides who to buy. managers live or die buy the signings eg diouf, diao cost houllier his job. Give rafa money and if he buys crap then we will have to face up to what happens. but he hasnt had the total backing yet.

          But the fees etc like eg alves slipped away. The tickets ? gerrards contract nearly left ?? thats parry

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            #6
            Excellent start to your Est career mate.

            I agree, i think it is well overdue that we make a genuine push for the title THIS SEASON but Tom and George must give Rafa the funds for this to become a reality. We seem to say this most summers but we need 3-4 proper worldclass players to go along with what is a very, very good team with the likes of Reina, Carra, Finnan, Agger, Hyypia, Gerrard, Alonso, Masherano and Crouch, not to mention other players fit to wear that red jersey...Kuyt(will come good next season), Riise.
            Arbeloa, Aurelio, Kewell and Pennant? well if these players remain at the club, we will see whether they make it or not.

            At least one striker is needed(not forgetting Veronin is on his way) along with a right sided player, a left winger and perhaps another centre half to cover for Carra, Agger and Sami.

            Dream signings?
            Eto'o
            Alves
            Pederson(realistic and i think would flourish with us)
            Milito(would he content with a place on the bench?, not sure.

            A big summer in store for Liverpool Football Club.
            Last edited by Marky; 04-06-07, 12:37 AM.
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              #7
              top post man...i with you all the way..total frustration...i believed after istanbul it was the start of greatness and the money we made could have bought us a couple of top players to build on the success...like we did in the old days....it didnt happen...and i was gutted...and now these two yanks saying all the right things...i believed it was gonna happen at last..money for to buy the best and really get up there with the scum etc...but now those two yanks have got me worried it all sounded so bloody good...but now ime not so sure...hope to god i am wrong and everything they have said/promised comes true...we should be and could be the biggest club on earth... and thats what i am looking for from the yanks....if it goes wrong this time i shudder to think what could happen

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                #8
                Agreed Chilli - Parry is just a convenient scapegoat a lot of the time, and some of the abuse he gets on boards such as this is just silly.

                Originally posted by Kop270
                Liverpool have a good team but its not good enough. Football has changed, money rules, even westham and villa spend it. If we dont move with the time s we will be left behind and we are to big for that !
                I get what you're saying mate, and welcome to the site btw, but I do think you need to chill a little. That bit I quoted above, well, think about it a moment, are you really saying we've been left behind WestHam, and Villa? Our spending over the last 5 years has been far more than virtually every other team in the league, apart from Chelsea (who have spending power that is completely unrivaled in world football), and ManU. Is a bit of sensible perspective far too much to ask from fans this summer?
                I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                Now all my lies are proved untrue
                And I must face the men I slew.
                What tale shall serve me here among
                Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Marky19 View Post
                  Excellent start to your Est career mate.

                  I agree, i think it is well overdue that we make a genuine push for the title THIS SEASON but Tom and George must give Rafa the funds for this to become a reality. We seem to say this most summers but we need 3-4 proper worldclass players to go alog with what is a very, very good team with the likes of Reina, Carra, Finnan, Agger, Hyypia, Gerrard, Alonso, Masherano and Crouch, not to mention other players fit to wear that red jersey...Kuyt(will come good next season), Riise.
                  Arbeloa, Aurelio, Kewell and Pennant? well if these players remain at the club, we will see whether they make it or not.

                  At least one striker is needed(not forgetting Veronin is on his way) along with a right sided player, a left winger and perhaps another centre half to cover for Carra, Agger and Sami.

                  Dream signings?
                  Eto'o
                  Alves
                  Pederson(realistic and i think would flourish with us)
                  Milito(would he content with a place on the bench?, not sure.

                  A big summer in store for Liverpool Football Club.
                  Lets hope these americans give rafa some money to spend but i still think they are all talk. i dont think we will have more money than any other season.
                  If we want to buy big, then rafa will probably have to sell sissoko,bellamy and maybe even alonso to fund his signings.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
                    Let's wait for the transfer window to close before we slit our wrists.
                    Let's wait for the transfer window to open before we slit our wrists.

                    There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                      What pisses me off is all this blaming of Parry because we sign "crap" players.

                      FFS, no-one puts a gun to the manager's head and says you must buy this **** player. If the manager thinks the player is crap then don't ****ing sign him.
                      Keep the funds and sign a better player in the next ****ing window.

                      All this attacking of Parry because we sign **** players is total bollocks. Rafa decides his own targets, if the players are ****-BLAME RAFA.


                      Every time we have missed out on top players we have had excuses from the club - he wasn't available, the selling club put the price up at the last minute, he didn't really want to come. In the case of Simao we were told rafa only targeted him on the last day of the transfer window, but now we know Rafa and Simao were constantly in touch and trying to push it through for over a week.

                      Now Rafa has publically come out and blamed Parry for messing up transfer after transfer, so that he has missed his first choices. Then he has had to wheeler deal at the end of every transfer window, when hardly anyone is available, also messing up pre season training.


                      Either Parry is incompetent or Rafa is an outrageous liar.


                      Going on Parrys record, I believe he is incompetent.


                      Messing up contract renewals - letting Owens run out to less than 12 months, nearly losing Stevie.


                      Basic administration - Rafa didn't even have a room to sleep in the night of the CL Final, so he was walking the streets.


                      The state of our marketing department - or rather lack of it.

                      The joke that is our ticketing system for the last decade, epitomised by the lack of communication and planning over the CL Final tickets.

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                        #12
                        I'm saying blaming Parry because Rafa signs "crap players" is nonsense.

                        Rafa picks the targets. We are not Chavski, we do not have the financial power to outbid everyone. We do not charge a small fortune for season tickets.

                        If clubs want us to spend like chavski and have a chief exec like chavski and rip it's fans off like Chavski, then may I suggest they go and support Chavski?
                        Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                        (1995)
                        "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                          #13
                          Fair play to let off steam. We all have moments like that. The years of frustration are starting to take their toll.

                          It's way too early to hit the panic button yet though. There is so much expectation hanging in the air, you could cut it with a knife.

                          I'm just doing the sensible thing and sitting back for a couple of weeks to see what ACTUALLY unfolds rather than listen to the speculation.

                          But hey, the speculation is good reading at the moment. Just take it all with a pinch of salt until anything is a done deal.
                          # Fernando Torres, Liverpool's number 9 #

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Marky19 View Post
                            Excellent start to your Est career mate.

                            I agree, i think it is well overdue that we make a genuine push for the title THIS SEASON but Tom and George must give Rafa the funds for this to become a reality. We seem to say this most summers but we need 3-4 proper worldclass players to go along with what is a very, very good team with the likes of Reina, Carra, Finnan, Agger, Hyypia, Gerrard, Alonso, Masherano and Crouch, not to mention other players fit to wear that red jersey...Kuyt(will come good next season), Riise.
                            Arbeloa, Aurelio, Kewell and Pennant? well if these players remain at the club, we will see whether they make it or not.

                            At least one striker is needed(not forgetting Veronin is on his way) along with a right sided player, a left winger and perhaps another centre half to cover for Carra, Agger and Sami.

                            Dream signings?
                            Eto'o
                            Alves
                            Pederson(realistic and i think would flourish with us)
                            Milito(would he content with a place on the bench?, not sure.

                            A big summer in store for Liverpool Football Club.



                            u mean Pedersen?
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by rushscored4 View Post
                              Let's wait for the transfer window to open before we slit our wrists.

                              Jeez

                              ... what stage has the game come to when it looks like the off-season is MORE important than the actual season.

                              Ironical almost
                              All you touch and all you see
                              Is all your life will ever be

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