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Originally posted by der_Fuchs View PostWhen UEFA laid into us 20 years ago, they had the full backing of the PM, who hated football. And after Heysel we were in no position to complain about anything that was said or done to us.
This time however, UEFA have misjudged the situation badly. They would have doine better to have said nothing, instead of preparing a dossier of 25 incidents that doesn't throw up any significant incidents. That only emphasises that basically we enjoy a good reputation abroad, but it shows the desperation of UEFA to make scapegoats of us. Meanwhile, the balanced yet firm rebuttals from club and UK sports minister have only drawn attention to how badly UEFA managed the situation. Even the former Tory leader Michael Howard (never my favorite MP, but fair play to him) has come out of this with enhanced credibility for standing up for us in advance of an official reaction.
We should be pushing for the resignation of Gaillard now, and a full apology to the club and fans. Also the sports minister should tell Platini that we (i.e. all the British clubs) aren't going to be scapegoats for UEFA anymore. In fact it is part of UEFA's role to look after the fans, not blame them for their own incompetence, and it is UEFA who need to improve their behaviour next time.
Excellent post mate.
The whole football landscape has changed so much since Heysel. Back then the top clubs didn't hold anything like the power they do now. The FA/UEFA/FIFA ruled the roost and the clubs had to tow the line. All this has now changed. The clubs forced UEFA to introduce the Champions League, for fear of a breakaway European League, it they didn't.
I think we should get the whole weight of the G14 behind us, to really take UEFA on over this. we need a full apology and the sacking of the clown.AKA Heighway No9
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Originally posted by Dhavlos View PostWell that's a massive retraction from UEFA I must say :whatever:
Comments like "Liverpool fans are not the worst in Europe" adds very little to this whole debate, does nothing to appease Liverpool fans who've been slandered and certainly does not address the shambles of an event the staging of the CL Final was.
UEFA really are a bunch of incompetent morons.
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Cheers, H.Originally posted by Sir Bob View PostExcellent post mate.
The whole football landscape has changed so much since Heysel. Back then the top clubs didn't hold anything like the power they do now. The FA/UEFA/FIFA ruled the roost and the clubs had to tow the line. All this has now changed. The clubs forced UEFA to introduce the Champions League, for fear of a breakaway European League, it they didn't.
I think we should get the whole weight of the G14 behind us, to really take UEFA on over this. we need a full apology and the sacking of the clown.
The more I think about UEFA, the more it looks like the tail wagging the dog. Bloody UEFA should be there to protect and support the fans, not obstruct them. They may have been able to duck their responsibilities after Heysel, but this time round they are being exposed as fools and parasites. The threat of a breakaway league might be just what it takes to imbue them with some sort of customer focus.Liverpool FC über alles.
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Not to mention swelling the coffers of the 'Uefa Family' members who decided they wanted a ticket for the final so that they could tout it.Originally posted by SCOUSERTOMMY View Postwhat uefa also dont mention is that liverpool fans have contributed millions of euros to the local economys, probably more so than any other club.
THe more I think about it - the more I think we should have asked/told all fans who bought a ticket on the black market to keep a record of its serial number so it can be traced back to the **** who touted it.Liverpool born and bred.
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