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    #31
    Originally posted by pablo1981 View Post
    True, we are well stocked in CM arent we, bt if Zenden managed that many games last season I would back Lucas too next season. Suppose it depends on if Sissoko gets back into top form or not.
    Did Sissoko ever fall from form?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Liverta 78 View Post
      What are the chances of Leiva breaking in to the first team next season? I'd hate to see such a talent lost in our reserve side. I hope he gets his chance and puts some pressure on our midfield ranks.
      Thats a bit like sayinghow long is a piece of streing, how are we supposed to know, give the guy a chance to get settled beofore we start judging which team he should play in

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        #33
        We don't have the resources to spend this kind of cash on somebody who will sit in the reserves next season.

        He will have to be in the first team squad without any doubt.
        Twin boys - now arriving late August 2008.

        Its gonna be Fernando and Gerrard if I get my way!

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          #34
          Originally posted by Diego View Post
          we'll see on Wednesday how he plays in the libertadores final against Boca...
          I'm looking really forward to seeing this and seeing him in action. See how he gets on against the likes Banega, Riquelme, Battaglia, Orteman and Ledesma. Boca have some quality midfielders so if he's playing especially in a holding sort of role we'll see what he's made of. If he can keep an on form Riquelme quiet for 90 min over 2 legs (i think) i'll be very very impressed with him.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Zapater View Post
            I'm looking really forward to seeing this and seeing him in action. See how he gets on against the likes Banega, Riquelme, Battaglia, Orteman and Ledesma. Boca have some quality midfielders so if he's playing especially in a holding sort of role we'll see what he's made of. If he can keep an on form Riquelme quiet for 90 min over 2 legs (i think) i'll be very very impressed with him.
            from what i saw in the highlights from the semi, he was quite a few times in the box, i recon he'll be in a visible role an attacking one, not just to keep Bocas midfield quiet, i'm hoping they'll have a difficult time handing him. at the same tieme i want Boca to win...
            "I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

            "You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto

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              #36
              Originally posted by Zapater View Post
              I'm looking really forward to seeing this and seeing him in action. See how he gets on against the likes Banega, Riquelme, Battaglia, Orteman and Ledesma. Boca have some quality midfielders so if he's playing especially in a holding sort of role we'll see what he's made of. If he can keep an on form Riquelme quiet for 90 min over 2 legs (i think) i'll be very very impressed with him.
              Lets not base how good he will be on a couple of games lads.

              Best player in his league at such a young age should tell you all you need to know of his potential. Time will tell if he realises it.
              Forwards.......

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                #37
                Here is a list of all the winners of the golden ball in Brazil, some pretty incredible players in that list

                Winners
                2006 : Lucas (Grêmio)
                2005 : Carlos Tévez (Corinthians)
                2004 : Robinho (Santos FC)
                2003 : Alex (Cruzeiro)
                2002 : Kaká (São Paulo FC)
                2001 : Alex Mineiro (Atlético Paranaense)
                2000 : Romario (Vasco da Gama)
                1999 : Marcelinho (Corinthians)
                1998 : Edilson (Corinthians)
                1997 : Edmundo (Vasco da Gama)
                1996 : Djalminha (Palmeiras)
                1995 : Giovanni (Santos FC)
                1994 : Amoroso (Guarani)
                1993 : César Sampaio (Palmeiras)
                1992 : Júnior (Flamengo)
                1991 : Mauro Silva (Bragantino)
                1990 : César Sampaio (Santos FC)
                1989 : Ricardo Rocha (São Paulo FC)
                1988 : Taffarel (Internacional)
                1987 : Renato Gaúcho (Flamengo)
                1986 : Careca (São Paulo FC)
                1985 : Marinho (Bangu)
                1984 : Roberto Costa (Vasco da Gama)
                1983 : Roberto Costa (Atlético Paranaense)
                1982 : Zico (Flamengo)
                1981 : Paulo Isidoro (Grêmio)
                1980 : Cerezo (Atlético Mineiro)
                1979 : Falcão (Internacional)
                1978 : Falcão (Internacional)
                1977 : Cerezo (Atlético Mineiro)
                1976 : Elías Figueroa (Internacional)
                1975 : Valdir Peres (São Paulo FC)
                1974 : Zico (Flamengo)
                1973 : Agustín Cejas (Santos FC)
                1973 : Atílio Ancheta (Grêmio)
                "The definition of insanity is not running into the same wall again and again; it's expecting a different result every time you do it."

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by akjs123 View Post
                  Problem is, with 4 CMs already, one of them most probably wont even make it to the bench so I dont see how there would be place for Lucas on the bench.
                  Erm - maybe one of them will be injured?
                  Just when I discovered the meaning of life, they changed it

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                    Erm - maybe one of them will be injured?
                    That is usually the case Maybe even two of them and Gerrard on the right because Pennant got slight hamstring in training, we´d be stretched - better buy another CM
                    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                      #40
                      Has anybody seen him play anywhere other than on you tube?

                      He sounds like a special player, a box to box midfielder, has pace, an eye for a pass and a great shot, has already played for the Brazil national side, is their U20 captain, and he's the youngest player ever to win player of the year in Brazil, but until he comes over there is no way of knowing how he will adapt.

                      Saying that he is the same age as Momo when he arrived, and he played a lot in his first season.

                      So basically I expect him to be more of an all round player than Gerrard, more skillful than Zidane, a better finisher than Ronaldo, faster on the ball than Henry, a better tackler than Nesta and with more energy than Momo.
                      "The definition of insanity is not running into the same wall again and again; it's expecting a different result every time you do it."

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by friedk View Post
                        Here is a list of all the winners of the golden ball in Brazil, some pretty incredible players in that list

                        Winners
                        2006 : Lucas (Grêmio)
                        2005 : Carlos Tévez (Corinthians)
                        2004 : Robinho (Santos FC)
                        2003 : Alex (Cruzeiro)
                        2002 : Kaká (São Paulo FC)
                        2001 : Alex Mineiro (Atlético Paranaense)
                        2000 : Romario (Vasco da Gama)
                        1999 : Marcelinho (Corinthians)
                        1998 : Edilson (Corinthians)
                        1997 : Edmundo (Vasco da Gama)
                        1996 : Djalminha (Palmeiras)
                        1995 : Giovanni (Santos FC)
                        1994 : Amoroso (Guarani)
                        1993 : César Sampaio (Palmeiras)
                        1992 : Júnior (Flamengo)
                        1991 : Mauro Silva (Bragantino)
                        1990 : César Sampaio (Santos FC)
                        1989 : Ricardo Rocha (São Paulo FC)
                        1988 : Taffarel (Internacional)
                        1987 : Renato Gaúcho (Flamengo)
                        1986 : Careca (São Paulo FC)
                        1985 : Marinho (Bangu)
                        1984 : Roberto Costa (Vasco da Gama)
                        1983 : Roberto Costa (Atlético Paranaense)
                        1982 : Zico (Flamengo)
                        1981 : Paulo Isidoro (Grêmio)
                        1980 : Cerezo (Atlético Mineiro)
                        1979 : Falcão (Internacional)
                        1978 : Falcão (Internacional)
                        1977 : Cerezo (Atlético Mineiro)
                        1976 : Elías Figueroa (Internacional)
                        1975 : Valdir Peres (São Paulo FC)
                        1974 : Zico (Flamengo)
                        1973 : Agustín Cejas (Santos FC)
                        1973 : Atílio Ancheta (Grêmio)
                        That's a ****ing impressive peer group. Screw Gerrard, this lads the real deal. Or he'll fail to live up to his potential at Liverpool, as is more likely.
                        Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                          #42
                          has sissoko extended his contract.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by justcruisin View Post
                            has sissoko extended his contract.
                            not yet. he is expected to soon though.

                            momo is boss
                            “At a football club, there’s a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques”. Bill Shankly

                            You'll Never Walk Alone

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by rhys1989 View Post
                              not yet. he is expected to soon though.

                              momo is boss
                              to me his appearance for the first team will depend on whether momo is still here or not. apart from finnan correct me if i'm wrong ...the core of the team has signed on...which means momo is rather expendable.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by justcruisin View Post
                                to me his appearance for the first team will depend on whether momo is still here or not. apart from finnan correct me if i'm wrong ...the core of the team has signed on...which means momo is rather expendable.
                                I'd go further than that and say we should be actively looking to cash in on Sissoko while his stock seems pretty high. For all his athleticism, the guy can't control the ball and looks like Traore's twin brother at times. Mascher and Didi prove that you can mess up the opposition and be a proper footballer. If Barca are really prepared to pay 9mill for a poor man's Paul Ince, we've got to take it.
                                Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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