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    Pako Ayesteran sets an uphill challenge for Liverpool's stars

    THERE’S a mound of turf at Melwood which the Liverpool stars have dubbed ‘Pako Hill’.

    As metaphors for the last three years at Anfield go, you’d be hard-pressed to find a better one than the sight of the team regularly struggling to reach its peak.

    When Rafa Benitez’s chief lieutenant, Pako Ayesteran, created the training aid – a man-made hill which players pound up and down – he visualised Liverpool becoming the fittest team in the world.

    He said: "Every year we're trying to improve the facilities, and the peak is another way of doing this. There are three. One is is 34m long with a gradiant of 5. The other is 24m with a gradient of 5. Another is 70m long."

    As someone disinterested in plaudits, it’s no surprise he dismisses any suggestion he’s near to achieving his goal.

    It was once said of one of Ayesteran’s legendary predecessors, Ronnie Moran, that no matter how much hype surrounded Liverpool’s progress, he could be relied upon to provide the reality check and demand much more.

    Ayesteran is cut from the same cloth. He’s a confessed sceptic when it comes to assessing his team’s current standing.

    Despite welcoming a series of leaps in the right direction, he maintains Liverpool will only be ready to make the final step with a fundamental change in the psychology of the club.

    “We have to change the culture surrounding Liverpool,” says Ayesteran. “All of us have responsibility, from the coaching staff, the players, the board and the supporters.

    “The change I’m talking about is a mental one. I’m not sure if Liverpool is ready to accept change, and this could be our biggest obstacle to taking our next step.

    “Everyone needs to accept there are too many games in England but everyone says every competition is important, but I don’t agree with that.

    “If we expect the same players to start in every competition, we can not be successful. We would be able to get more from all the players in the most important games if it was recognised a club of Liverpool’s size should not see all these competitions as important.

    “Also, in English football too much is made of starting with the same 11 each week.

    “It would be fantastic for the board if this was possible. We could use just 11 players every season and not have tospend money to have a 23 man squad.

    “Some players have had too much pressure on them for too long. When we arrived, people were saying how in the years before Stevie (Gerrard) had to carry too much responsibility for the team on and off the park. This was not fair on him or his team mates.

    “To be successful, you can’t be looking to the same individuals all the time. It has to be group effort.”

    Ayesteran senses danger if too much is anticipated in the months to come.

    “I’m not thinking in terms of expectations for this season,” he says. “To have a winning team is a process. If you have to sign six players in the summer, I don’t think it’s a good situation if you want to win the title.

    “I’ve never seen a major transformation in any team within a year. Even when we won La Liga with Valencia for the first time, the side had been improving gradually in the years earlier.

    “Manchester United did not win the title because of last year. They won it because they’ve improved over three years and earned their reward, buying just two or three players each season.

    “First we must put ourselves in a position where we can see ourselves winning the Premier. I don’t think we are in that position yet, so that’s the first ambition.

    “Can Liverpool say it has been close to the league in the last five years? No. Of course we have to believe we can be close, but I think to expect to win it this season would be a big mistake.

    “Sometimes when you react to big expectations you make decisions to get quick results when you should be thinking over the medium and long term.

    “That also leads to mistakes. This is where Manchester United have done things properly.

    “Winning the Champions League in our first season increased expectations on us, but we were not a great team. You only have to get through 11 games to win that competition.”

    No doubt Ayesteran’s brutal assessment will be interpreted in some quarters as negative.

    He refutes this, insisting he’s being realistic for the club’s own good.

    “As a group, we are all thinking positively,” he insists. “That’s how you get the best from everyone. Whether positive thinking alone is enough, I don’t know, but whatever the situation you can be certain we’ll all be working hard.

    “The spine of our team is as good as any in the league. I wouldn’t change the spine of our team with that of Chelsea or Manchester United. The rest of the squad is where we need to improve and that will determine how close we can go, but the new players must also be given time.

    “We’re on the way to where we want to be and we have more solutions now thanwe did three years ago, but people must realise there’s still a way to go.”

    Until then, Liverpool’s players will still be trying to reach that elusive summit.

    “It was Robbie Fowler who first called the area of Melwood Pako Hill, or Pako Peak. I tried to get the players to work with me for a week to build it, but they wouldn’t!” laughed the assistant boss.

    As long as Ayesteran keeps leading them up it, Liverpool may eventually hit the heights they’re craving.



    A super fit(not in a gay way) squad is essential if we are to challenge on all fronts this season
    "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
    Tupac

    #2
    Give them free reign I say..............lets just win No.19 Before Carra retires please!
    RAFA

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      #3
      Originally posted by Darth Marty View Post
      Give them free reign I say..............lets just win No.19 Before Carra retires please!
      What do you mean by free reign?
      Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
      'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

      "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

      * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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        #4
        Pako :respectt:
        Like blood on iron

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          #5
          If that article was posted on here by a random Joe,then it would get slated.
          He is right about the spine of our team being top class.Babel will take time to settle and Pennant is trying his hardest to be top class but he just is'nt.I like the guy but he has not got the end product like the top wingers and rarely scores.Benayoun is a cuter player who can see a pass but is'nt a winger.
          Kewell for me is spent(I dislike him).So Gerrard sadly and probably Riise will occupy the wings when the going gets tough.Sadly Chelsea for me will piss this league.They nearly won it last year with Hilarious in goals for a long period,both centre backs out at important parts of the season,Robben and Joe Cole out and Shevchenko and Ballack not settling and disrupting the dressing room.Cech is back,they brought 2 centre backs in as cover,they will probably sign Alves to add to Robben,Malouda,SWP and Joe Cole on the wings and Pizzaro will give them more options up front.They have a great spine and equally as good peripheral players.I hate to be negative but I just think we did not re-inforce enough.Let the slating begin
          Oh the man is a midfield maestro
          and his passes are sooo delightful
          everyone wants to know
          Alonso Alonso Alonso

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            #6
            Paco The guy's a genius

            When will he publish his book? He must have written it 10 times over during LFC matches
            Torres Fan Club Member #2, Lucas Leiva Fan Club Member #1

            going limp; HARRRRRRRRRRRR

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              #7
              Originally posted by PostmanPat View Post
              If that article was posted on here by a random Joe,then it would get slated.
              He is right about the spine of our team being top class.Babel will take time to settle and Pennant is trying his hardest to be top class but he just is'nt.I like the guy but he has not got the end product like the top wingers and rarely scores.Benayoun is a cuter player who can see a pass but is'nt a winger.
              Kewell for me is spent(I dislike him).So Gerrard sadly and probably Riise will occupy the wings when the going gets tough.Sadly Chelsea for me will piss this league.They nearly won it last year with Hilarious in goals for a long period,both centre backs out at important parts of the season,Robben and Joe Cole out and Shevchenko and Ballack not settling and disrupting the dressing room.Cech is back,they brought 2 centre backs in as cover,they will probably sign Alves to add to Robben,Malouda,SWP and Joe Cole on the wings and Pizzaro will give them more options up front.They have a great spine and equally as good peripheral players.I hate to be negative but I just think we did not re-inforce enough.Let the slating begin
              I disagree mate
              Well I think Paco is right when he says, we have an excellent spine to the team that he wouldn't change for any other in the league, I think by Spine he means, GK, centre halves, and midfielders. I wouldn't swap them either, for the players we have in them positions especially in midfield, we have great options. While Carra and Agger at the back are solid and rarely get rotated.
              It is obvious we need to strengthen with genuine class on the wings, but IMO Pennant will surprise a few this season, he has really improved since he first joined us, and to be honest, I don't think he gets the credit he deserves, he has so much more mature since he joined us aswell.
              Kewell is far from spent, it could be argued that the injuries he has had may even prolong his career, as he has not been pounding around too much, that is, if his groin can hold out.
              There are obviously players of a higher quality than Pennant for the right out there, which we should be looking to bring in, but I don't think he is as bad as people make out.
              Our strike force should also improve during the season.
              All in all, I am very optimistic, especially in Europe
              Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
              'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

              "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

              * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                #8
                Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                I disagree mate
                Well I think Paco is right when he says, we have an excellent spine to the team that he wouldn't change for any other in the league, I think by Spine he means, GK, centre halves, and midfielders. I wouldn't swap them either, for the players we have in them positions especially in midfield, we have great options. While Carra and Agger at the back are solid and rarely get rotated.
                It is obvious we need to strengthen with genuine class on the wings, but IMO Pennant will surprise a few this season, he has really improved since he first joined us, and to be honest, I don't think he gets the credit he deserves, he has so much more mature since he joined us aswell.
                Kewell is far from spent, it could be argued that the injuries he has had may even prolong his career, as he has not been pounding around too much, that is, if his groin can hold out.
                There are obviously players of a higher quality than Pennant for the right out there, which we should be looking to bring in, but I don't think he is as bad as people make out.
                Our strike force should also improve during the season.
                All in all, I am very optimistic, especially in Europe
                We both agree that the wings are not sorted so though.Pennant is not bad.
                Not bad is not what Liverpool fc should accept though.One goal last year he got.He and Kewell keep defending themselves in the press.Saying stuff like "competition is fierce and it is time I stepped up".Our spine and attack is strong and we have loads of full backs.I can see Aurelio and Riise being used on the left wing again this year and Gerrard on the right.If that happens then it will be like the last two years and come the end of the season we will be calling for wingers again.
                Oh the man is a midfield maestro
                and his passes are sooo delightful
                everyone wants to know
                Alonso Alonso Alonso

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PostmanPat View Post
                  We both agree that the wings are not sorted so though.Pennant is not bad.
                  Not bad is not what Liverpool fc should accept though.One goal last year he got.He and Kewell keep defending themselves in the press.Saying stuff like "competition is fierce and it is time I stepped up".Our spine and attack is strong and we have loads of full backs.I can see Aurelio and Riise being used on the left wing again this year and Gerrard on the right.If that happens then it will be like the last two years and come the end of the season we will be calling for wingers again.
                  Gerrard on the right is no bad thing though IMO. With Torres and Bebel in the team we have more pace and creativity,

                  Gerrard - Mascher - Alonso - Babel

                  This is not a bad midfield at all, it´s actually a pretty good one, threat from the wings and with Torres upfront latching onto Xabi's balls, just imagine what he can do with Torres and Babel, since those two can actually trap the bloody ball.
                  * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                    #10
                    Not bad - but not enough presence in the box? Gerrard doesn't get there enough from the right (cf him as a CM) and Babel generally (from the limited amount I'vce seen him), plays around the periphery of the box. Add Kuyt dropping deep, and we will still struggle for enough bodies in the box. I'd start with SG centre mid (with Mascher), with Kewell wide left and Pennant/Babel/Benayoun wide right, with Torres and Kuyt/Voronin/Crouch up front. SG to play RM if / when we need solidity there against the top sides.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                      Gerrard on the right is no bad thing though IMO. With Torres and Bebel in the team we have more pace and creativity,

                      Gerrard - Mascher - Alonso - Babel

                      This is not a bad midfield at all, it´s actually a pretty good one, threat from the wings and with Torres upfront latching onto Xabi's balls, just imagine what he can do with Torres and Babel, since those two can actually trap the bloody ball.
                      I agree on paper that looks good.But Babel may take time to ajust.
                      Kewell,Riise and Aurelio are the LW back ups and Pennant and Benayoun are RW back ups.Gerrard could honestly play any position for us he is that good,but his best is in the centre.
                      Oh the man is a midfield maestro
                      and his passes are sooo delightful
                      everyone wants to know
                      Alonso Alonso Alonso

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                        What do you mean by free reign?
                        Free reign in so much as allowing them to do anything they bloody well want to in order for us to win the league! If that means running hills 24/7 then so be it.

                        RAFA

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kopite_Colin View Post
                          Not bad - but not enough presence in the box? Gerrard doesn't get there enough from the right (cf him as a CM) and Babel generally (from the limited amount I'vce seen him), plays around the periphery of the box. Add Kuyt dropping deep, and we will still struggle for enough bodies in the box. I'd start with SG centre mid (with Mascher), with Kewell wide left and Pennant/Babel/Benayoun wide right, with Torres and Kuyt/Voronin/Crouch up front. SG to play RM if / when we need solidity there against the top sides.
                          I would have Monster and Xabi in the middle and Stevie behind Torres.Gerrard is the best winger we have and he is'nt even one.Rafa will persist with Kewell and Pennant will get the RW spot.As said before,the spine is very strong and the wide creative areas are still our weakness.
                          Oh the man is a midfield maestro
                          and his passes are sooo delightful
                          everyone wants to know
                          Alonso Alonso Alonso

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Darth Marty View Post
                            Free reign in so much as allowing them to do anything they bloody well want to in order for us to win the league! If that means running hills 24/7 then so be it.

                            Free rein

                            I wouldn't mind but bazza can't spell either

                            I love Sarah

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                              Gerrard - Mascher - Alonso - Babel

                              This is not a bad midfield at all, it´s actually a pretty good one, threat from the wings and with Torres upfront latching onto Xabi's balls, just imagine what he can do with Torres and Babel, since those two can actually trap the bloody ball.
                              FLMAO.

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