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    #31
    Originally posted by dww View Post
    I'm in favour of changes to the way matches are officiated but I think slowing down the game would take away something from the sport.

    I would like to see rules such as offside simplified and ideally made physically possible for the officials to see all necessary areas. Watching the man running + the one passing + working out what phase of play everything happened in is a ridiculously difficult task and even in replays people often disagree about the interpretation.

    I also think that we could do with a change to the way advantage is played to make it less completely random. Possibly having a presribed time limit when the offended against team can call for the freekick if they get no advantage.

    I think additional assistants with more prescribed roles would also be benificial.

    Overall I would like to see FIFA/UEFA trial some innovations to see the level of impact and to see which changes are worth applying. As it is they seem resistant to do anything but ludicrous alterations of the 'interpretations' of the rules.
    would agree with most of that

    my main point is that a single person - with an optimum televised view and rapid access to a replay can give a very accurate decision pretty quickly.
    I dont think it would slow the game down very much and a stopping clock would be an improvent all round since modern day players waste time much more than players 30 years ago. the ball in time play is around 15% less than games from the late 70's - 55mins of ball in play is high in the modern era - well i dont think thats good enough when players are paid 125k per week they can stretch themselves put in a full 90mins for the paying spectator
    drunk knows best

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      #32
      One thing that i have been astounded by over the last several years is how frequently offsides is called incorrectly. And considering many times the difference between onside and offside is a goal it is simply something that they have to get right. Look at our preseason game against pompey. 5 minutes from time Kuyt (or was it Pennant?) was clean thru on James and onside only for it to be called back. That very well could have been the difference in the outcome of the match.

      I agree with the arguments about slowing the game down, but I live about 3 thousand miles from Anfield and I know in less then 30 seconds whether it was onside or not, and the ppl on the pitch are still allowed to call it wrong. They ought to have a rule where any question of ambiguity is allowed to play on and then if a goal results they can look at the replay to determine if it was onside. the replays are so quick and reliablie its criminal to allow refs to consistently get it wrong.
      Custard's OK

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        #33
        Who favours video technology?

        I certainly do! It would finally prove Maureen wrong when he still whinges about King Luis goal

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          #34
          I think they need to simplify the offside law. The new interpretation about interfering with play just makes things far worse than it ever was.

          Surely some kind of automatic sensing system could be employed. It might require us to barcode the players though.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



          May the Lord bless this post.

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            #35
            Most of the refs are clown

            Pity Dermot Gallagher had to retire
            When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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              #36
              who do you guys think is the best ref in the league today?
              "I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

              "You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto

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                #37
                The only good ref is a dead ref.
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  I think they need to simplify the offside law. The new interpretation about interfering with play just makes things far worse than it ever was.

                  Surely some kind of automatic sensing system could be employed. It might require us to barcode the players though.
                  That would surely give Newcastle an unfair advantage.
                  "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                  -- William Blake

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                    Who favours video technology?

                    I certainly do! It would finally prove Maureen wrong when he still whinges about King Luis goal
                    I don't. There are very few instances where a decision could be made using video in the same time period that it is now and a lot of the time video evidence is ambiguous a case in point being that Garcia goal.

                    If we are going to bring in technology for decisions IMO it has to be things which can be done quickly and unambiguously - i.e. sensors on lines to determine goals and sensors on players aswell for offside.
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
                      I used to like gherkin




                      Yuk!can't stand the ****.
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                      'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

                      Bill Shankly.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by CincyRed View Post
                        I agree with the arguments about slowing the game down, but I live about 3 thousand miles from Anfield and I know in less then 30 seconds whether it was onside or not, and the ppl on the pitch are still allowed to call it wrong.
                        The way i see it, the play is allowed to run unless its CLEARLY offside. an off pitch ref could press a button if its a close call and the play is allowed to run until the attempt on goal happens or not. the review should take only about 5 seconds and happen simultaneously. if it was onside - play on, if offside, bring play back. simple
                        drunk knows best

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by enema of the state View Post
                          The way i see it, the play is allowed to run unless its CLEARLY offside. an off pitch ref could press a button if its a close call and the play is allowed to run until the attempt on goal happens or not. the review should take only about 5 seconds and happen simultaneously. if it was onside - play on, if offside, bring play back. simple
                          I guess this could be made to work if there was a definite benefit of the doubt to the attackers or defenders decision made. I still think that a lot of the time these decisions are touch and go on camera and are affected by the camera(s) position.
                          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                          -- William Blake

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                            #43
                            we need video cameras every where and stoppages after contenious incedents like Kuyts goal against Feyenoord.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                              Who favours video technology?

                              I certainly do! It would finally prove Maureen wrong when he still whinges about King Luis goal
                              actually it would prove him right : theres absolutely no way in this universe that that ball crossed the line

                              but what it ought to show is that correct deciion was a penalty to lfc and a red card for their keeper. i believe this decision was consciously given as a "fudge" by a ref in full belief that the ball didnt cross the line
                              Last edited by enema of the state; 10-08-07, 07:13 PM.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by dww View Post
                                I guess this could be made to work if there was a definite benefit of the doubt to the attackers or defenders decision made. I still think that a lot of the time these decisions are touch and go on camera and are affected by the camera(s) position.
                                Id propose unless its clearly off on 1st still view (ie 5 seconds) then dont stop the play
                                drunk knows best

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