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    #31
    Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post


    Sometimes I think you are just after a good argument and you exaggerate things to provoke a response, a bit like fatty(no disrespect but he did do that).
    Well I'm not going to argue with you. All I will ask is what is the point in having those players in our squad if they are not good enough to play in the 3rd qualifying round of the champions league?
    In my opinion, that team is good enough to get something from that game, THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY of us getting knocked out in 1 leg. It is a 2 legged tie and I have not mentioned anything about a team for the 2nd leg.
    It is NOT pointless, the point is that priority number 1 is the league and LFC under Rafa has a long history of not turning up to the following league game after an away CL match.

    If you want to push me into a corner then if the choice is a long run in the champions league and 4th place or knocked out against Toulose and win the title then I will opt for the latter.

    **** the money, that's the Yanks problem. The money we gain from winning the Premiership will more than compensate.
    Dont try and make out that i'm being radical or just looking for an argument.

    Your team is ****e and we'd get beaten comfortably, giving us a hugely difficult task of overturning a defecit in the second leg.

    It'd be a stupid thing to do and it seems like virtually nobody else agrees with you either, so let's not try and point the finger at me, as if i'm being controversial in what i'm saying... :whatever:

    As for '**** the money' - another daft and naive thing to say.

    How do you think 'the yanks' would feel after their investment, if they saw Rafa pick a crap team and we got knocked out, and missed out on upto £40m or so from the CL?
    Last edited by Craig_H; 12-08-07, 09:32 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by akjs123 View Post
      There is no way Rafa is going to put out the strongest team against Toulouse. There will be a few important factors to keep in mind. We will be playing at 3:30 when the temperature would be around 29-30 and it would sap a lot of energy out of the players. 4 days later we have Chelsea at home which will be a very important match for us and if our key players are not on full fitness it could hurt us. In the week when we play our home leg, we play sunderland away and toulouse and derby at home and after that there are 2 weeks of international matches. We can certainly unleash the strongest team for the home leg if the need arises.
      I think Rafa will put out a team on wed that will keep possession well and he will prioritise keeping a clean sheet.
      The team would be
      Reina
      Finnan/Arbeloa
      Carra
      Agger
      Riise
      Pennant/Yossi
      Masch
      Stevie
      Leto
      Crouch
      Voronin

      Crouch will most definitely start because he has a good record in Europe plus it will be a chance for him to show why he should start against Chelsea without Terry.

      Good post Don't expect anyone else to take you seriously though.
      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
      (1995)
      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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        #33
        Originally posted by DJS View Post
        Dont try and make out that i'm being radical or just looking for an argument.

        Your team is ****e and we'd get beaten comfortably, giving us a hugely difficult task of overturning a defecit in the second leg.

        It'd be a stupid thing to do and it seems like virtually nobody else agrees with you either, so let's not try and point the finger at me, as if i'm being controversial in what i'm saying... :whatever:
        FFS you just do not comprehend people's words do you?

        Just answer the question, if those players are in your words "****e" and they can't compete with Toulose in the 3rd qualifying round of the champions league, then WHAT is the point in having them in our first team squad?
        Originally posted by Gordon Brown
        (1995)
        "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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          #34
          Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
          Good post Don't expect anyone else to take you seriously though.
          His side featured a full strength backline, a STRONG CM with SG and Masher.


          FAR stronger than the XI you suggested.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
            FFS you just do not comprehend people's words do you?

            Just answer the question, if those players are in your words "****e" and they can't compete with Toulose in the 3rd qualifying round of the champions league, then WHAT is the point in having them in our first team squad?
            Within the context of the game's importance, it'd be a rubbish selection.

            The players may or may not be '****e' as such, but as an overall team, it has very little experience, have never played together and you'd send that away from home, to a side who finished 3rd in their league and beat the runaway champions this weekend? Daft.

            We have them in our first team squad, and we'll integrate them into the team gradually, and in smaller doses, in less important games. Not virtually all at the same time, in the away leg of a crucial tie, against strong opposition.

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              #36
              Originally posted by DJS View Post
              Within the context of the game's importance, it'd be a rubbish selection.

              The players may or may not be '****e' as such, but as an overall team, it has very little experience, have never played together and you'd send that away from home, to a side who finished 3rd in their league and beat the runaway champions this weekend?

              Daft.
              In your opinion but seeing as neither of us are football managers our opinions don't count for jack ****, do they.

              The only difference is I don't call our players ****e before they've played for us.
              Originally posted by Gordon Brown
              (1995)
              "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                #37
                Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                In your opinion but seeing as neither of us are football managers our opinions don't count for jack ****, do they.

                The only difference is I don't call our players ****e before they've played for us.
                Nobody, except football managers, have valid opinions then?

                Why express ANY opinions then? We're not managers, so we should just close the forums down and never express views...

                What a tool of a comment...

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                  #38
                  Final word on the matter from me:

                  If we lose in the 3rd round qualifier to Toulose, the 3rd round of the league cup and the 3rd round of the FA cup BUT win the league I will see that as a fantastic season.

                  I do care about the Champions league, I do care about the FA cup, I don't give 2 ****s about prize money or the league cup to be perfectly honest; but the title is our bread and butter and the SCUM are too close to us to allow our focus to slip.
                  Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                  (1995)
                  "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DJS View Post
                    Nobody, except football managers, have valid opinions then?

                    Why express ANY opinions then? We're not managers, so we should just close the forums down and never express views...

                    What a tool of a comment...
                    Classic DJS approach. Don't read/comprehend words, just make your own up.

                    I said our opinions "DON'T COUNT" for jack ****. Do you understand english? They don't COUNT, they are irrelevant.

                    It doesn't make them invalid.
                    Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                    (1995)
                    "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                      Final word on the matter from me:

                      If we lose in the 3rd round qualifier to Toulose, the 3rd round of the league cup and the 3rd round of the FA cup BUT win the league I will see that as a fantastic season.

                      I do care about the Champions league, I do care about the FA cup, I don't give 2 ****s about prize money or the league cup to be perfectly honest; but the title is our bread and butter and the SCUM are too close to us to allow our focus to slip.
                      It's an enormous 'if' and i dont think losing in the qualifying round of the CL will have any decisive impact on our league chances. It'd be a stupid thing to risk and as for the CL money, i do give two ****s about it, because it can have a major impact on what we can spend on players in the next couple of years.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                        Classic DJS approach. Don't read/comprehend words, just make your own up.

                        I said our opinions "DON'T COUNT" for jack ****. Do you understand english? They don't COUNT, they are irrelevant.

                        It doesn't make them invalid.
                        If they're irrelevant, why do you bother making them? Why bother posting your team if your view 'doesnt count' ?

                        They're entirely relevant in the context of this discussion.

                        Anyway, we could go round in circles but it's pointless.

                        I think your team selection was ****e, you think it was good. Let's just leave it at that.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by DJS View Post
                          It's an enormous 'if' and i dont think losing in the qualifying round of the CL will have any decisive impact on our league chances. It'd be a stupid thing to risk and as for the CL money, i do give two ****s about it, because it can have a major impact on what we can spend on players in the next couple of years.
                          Qualifying for the group stages c.f. winning the title will not make that much difference to our spending capability.

                          Football is about winning trophies, well it certainly used to be. Qualifying for group stages is insignificant c.f. winning the title.

                          Anyway, why am I wasting my time on someone who can't comprehend english?

                          Goodnight
                          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                          (1995)
                          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by DJS View Post
                            Within the context of the game's importance, it'd be a rubbish selection.

                            The players may or may not be '****e' as such, but as an overall team, it has very little experience, have never played together and you'd send that away from home, to a side who finished 3rd in their league and beat the runaway champions this weekend? Daft.

                            We have them in our first team squad, and we'll integrate them into the team gradually, and in smaller doses, in less important games. Not virtually all at the same time, in the away leg of a crucial tie, against strong opposition.
                            Very well put.We will see Wednesday exactly how Rafa feels about them.
                            The CL is not a comp to underestimate teams.Celtic found that out against a poor side from eastern Europe and got whopped 5nil away.They won the home leg 4nil I think and were out.I would'nt say Toulouse are class but they would probably beat some Premiership teams easily so we should respect them and put out a very strong side.One game at a time
                            Oh the man is a midfield maestro
                            and his passes are sooo delightful
                            everyone wants to know
                            Alonso Alonso Alonso

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                              Final word on the matter from me:

                              If we lose in the 3rd round qualifier to Toulose, the 3rd round of the league cup and the 3rd round of the FA cup BUT win the league I will see that as a fantastic season.

                              I do care about the Champions league, I do care about the FA cup, I don't give 2 ****s about prize money or the league cup to be perfectly honest; but the title is our bread and butter and the SCUM are too close to us to allow our focus to slip.
                              The problem is that if we go out early in the cups then Rafa would get a big problem to keep every player match fit. We need the the cups to keep the players fit and motivated.
                              Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                              According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by PostmanPat View Post
                                Very well put.We will see Wednesday exactly how Rafa feels about them.
                                The CL is not a comp to underestimate teams.Celtic found that out against a poor side from eastern Europe and got whopped 5nil away.They won the home leg 4nil I think and were out.I would'nt say Toulouse are class but they would probably beat some Premiership teams easily so we should respect them and put out a very strong side.One game at a time
                                **** the champions league, I want the title
                                Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                                (1995)
                                "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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