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There is nobody better in the team at finding space in a tight midfield a passing the ball around than Xabi at the club, his rane of passing is top class.Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
* After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs
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He'll chip in with a few but will get many many assists. Aswell as having every attribute under the sun needed to be a top midfielder. He controls our game. Simple as that. He is the key man for me. He sets the tempo and allows Gerrard off the leash.Originally posted by Morphorino View PostXabi's not a goal threat either tho, so that doesn't really prove anything, although i;m not bashing Alonso here, he's just not
Now I like Sissy and Mashers. I think we have 4 superd mids there but Alonso and Gerrard are streets ahead of Sissoko with Masher somewhere in between IMO.
Four of the prems best mids though and the reasion why we will win the league


(along with Fernando of course) oh and rafa!Last edited by Nic83; 28-08-07, 11:46 PM.
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Still don't think Alonso is the way forward, I think stevie is more comfortable playing with a Mascherano type player who will sit, make the important tackles and has a decent range of passing, thus leaving Stevie to stay further up field. But differen't games will call for different players, and Alonso will play when we need to be creative.Originally posted by Nic83 View PostHe'll chip in with a few but will get many many assists. Aswell as having every attribute under the sun needed to be a top midfielder. Now I like Sissy and Mashers. I think we have 4 superd mids there but Alonso and Gerrard are streets ahead of Sissoko with Masher somewhere in between IMO.
Four of the prems best mids though and the reasion why we will win the league

Thomas Hicks Senior
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Originally posted by Morphorino View PostStill don't think Alonso is the way forward, I think stevie is more comfortable playing with a Mascherano type player who will sit, make the important tackles and has a decent range of passing, thus leaving Stevie to stay further up field. But differen't games will call for different players, and Alonso will play when we need to be creative.
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You've just described Alonso there although Alonso has a much bigger array of attributes on top of that.Originally posted by Morphorino View PostStill don't think Alonso is the way forward, I think stevie is more comfortable playing with a Mascherano type player who will sit, make the important tackles and has a decent range of passing, thus leaving Stevie to stay further up field. But differen't games will call for different players, and Alonso will play when we need to be creative.
Alonso's tackling stats last season were tops. He really does have it all. Obv not as good as the other 3 in the tackle department but effective none the less.
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Hmmm. Initial post is a little over harsh and dramatic imo. However, on curent form, I'd struggle to pick Xabi ahead of any of Gerrard, Mascherano or Sissoko.I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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He`s slipping down the pecking order and must be worried that Lucas had a good debut.Competition is healthy if they are prepared to stand and fight for their places,hopefully it won`t backfire on Rafa.Originally posted by MrMichael View PostHmmm. Initial post is a little over harsh and dramatic imo. However, on curent form, I'd struggle to pick Xabi ahead of any of Gerrard, Mascherano or Sissoko.
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Originally posted by Quinncy View PostHe`s slipping down the pecking order and must be worried that Lucas had a good debut.Competition is healthy if they are prepared to stand and fight for their places,hopefully it won`t backfire on Rafa.
Yeah I'm sure he's ****ting himself at the arrival of Lucas.
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I take it you're a xabi fan, seriously he's obviously a good player but his main assest is his passing, thats the only thing he does better than our other options. Sissoko and Mascherano are better tacklers, and both are faster and seem to have bigger engines than Xabi, Stevie G is better at shooting bursting forward and maybe through balls.Originally posted by Nic83 View PostYou've just described Alonso there although Alonso has a much bigger array of attributes on top of that.
Alonso's tackling stats last season were tops. He really does have it all. Obv not as good as the other 3 in the tackle department but effective none the less.
Xabi has his range of passing and his ability to play well with any of the other 3, he can tackle adequately can take the odd shot from distance and is disciplined (but so is mascherano).Thomas Hicks Senior
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Oh yes, being a midfielder myselfOriginally posted by Morphorino View PostI take it you're a xabi fan, seriously he's obviously a good player but his main assest is his passing, thats the only thing he does better than our other options. Sissoko and Mascherano are better tacklers, and both are faster and seem to have bigger engines than Xabi, Stevie G is better at shooting bursting forward and maybe through balls.
Xabi has his range of passing and his ability to play well with any of the other 3, he can tackle adequately can take the odd shot from distance and is disciplined (but so is mascherano).
I appreciate what he does even more.
For me, his most important ability is the way he controls and sets the tempo of the game. His game intelligence and awareness of potential counters/moves is superb (these are the things that go unnoticed by most fans). And then comes the passing to actually make the moves come off or slow/quicken the game up. For me, him and Pirlo are the 2 best passers of the ball (all ranges) in world football. It's an absolute pleasure for me to watch him play. Not in that way though
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no! completely DISagree....for me the way forward is stevie and masch. Sell xabi and keep momo and lucas as backup/cup games.Originally posted by Nic83 View PostDisgraceful post.
Anyone who knows their footy knows Alonso and Gerrard is the way forward.
Xabi hasnt done anything wrong per se but he just is the least important of the three (stevie, masch, momo) and id like lucas to at least have a chance with us.
Thanks Xabi...but enjoy Barca
(not that im expecting him to go...tbh if Rafa can keep them all happy im all for them all staying)
RAFA 
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i think we've all become accustomed to players of xabi's quality. he IS a better player than momo and i cant see why rafa would want to sell him at all. i think its a case of being happy with what we have, which im sure we'd be fine with. losing xabi would be a compete step down in my eyes and any other team in the world would relish the chance of having him on board. we've rejected numerous big money offers from spain for him, clearly rafa rates the guy...plus he obviously loves playing for the club, and is settled here, what bloody more do you want?“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques”. Bill Shankly
You'll Never Walk Alone
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