Should Liverpool have an affinity to Rangers or Celtic?

[brightred]

Neither.

Why should we have an affinity with any Scottish club? Complete non-starter for me, it's LFC 1st 2nd and 3rd etc. **** everyone else

Have to agree

I can't stand people who claim to support two teams.

[spud_gun]

No.

Showers of arseholes the pair of them. Both as bad as each other. Sectarianism is not somthing i'd want attaching itself to Liverpool.

[brightred]

No.

Showers of arseholes the pair of them. Both as bad as each other. Sectarianism is not somthing i'd want attaching itself to Liverpool.

[publiusscipio]

See whenever I've mentioned this to anyone - any non-Red - they swear blind that Liverpool was traditionally a Catholic club, even though it's clear from first hand evidence like yours that it wasn't.


I think it's because we've become so closely associated with Celtic in the popular mind in recent years through friendlies, cup ties, the singing of YNWA, Dalglish, and so on, that people think this.



It makes no difference to me, although I have a few relatives who would spit feathers if you suggested there was a definite link between Celtic and Liverpool.

My fathers side were Protestants, my paternal grandfather R.I.P. coming to Liverpool as a teenager from Govan. His father (William Gentleman Crichton) played for Rangers my Grandfather said. My mothers side were Catholic, my maternal grandfather R.I.P. was a Liverpool fan, though he also follwed Man Utd when Busby managed them as he liked Busby from his Liverpool days (he began hating them from the 70's onwards). His father was staunch Everton mind. I really don't know why my mums father supported Liverpool being a Catholic and his father supporting Everton. I'll never know I guess.

[Sir Bob]

Liverpool were very much a prody club. many of our early players were scottish protestents.

Thankfully, such ****e has long since passed and we probably have more links with celtic now. I'm pretty sure hey were the 1st club we played after hillsborough.

As for YNWA, I've heard it said many times they did sing it before us. If thats true or not, I don't know.

[publiusscipio]

Neither.

Why should we have an affinity with any Scottish club? Complete non-starter for me, it's LFC 1st 2nd and 3rd etc. **** everyone else

I perceive this as manifold; generational, the Protestant/Catholic divide which is still real to some, wether a supporter is from Liverpool itself or is from a Catholic, Protestant family/country or a simply doesn't have any historic allegiances. There is no one way of looking at it, but many, depending on your age, background etc.

Have to agree

I can't stand people who claim to support two teams.

I see, but I didn't mention support of a second club, but a possible affinity with either, or no affinity at all mate.

No.

Showers of arseholes the pair of them. Both as bad as each other. Sectarianism is not somthing i'd want attaching itself to Liverpool.

spud_gun I think it is a bit harsh to call either club a shower of arseholes. There is a history there and having met many Glasweigans I find them coherent, passionate and because of their passion, died in the wool. There has been a link between Liverpool and both Glasgow clubs wether you care to accept it or not.

Redlife and Royzared indicated that Liverpool used to be a protestant club along with Rangers. Certainly Rangers are still a Protestant club while more and more Liverpool and Everton do not identify with the sectarianism.

[Marky]

How they **** are LFC a protestant club now?

I HATE both Celtic Football Club and Rangers Football Club btw.
Secterian ***** both of them.

[Red Chilli]

I perceive this as manifold; generational, the Protestant/Catholic divide which is still real to some, wether a supporter is from Liverpool itself or is from a Catholic, Protestant family/country or a simply doesn't have any historic allegiances. There is no one way of looking at it, but many, depending on your age, background etc.

I don't find it difficult to accept that some supporters perceive an allegiance between LFC and one of the Old Firm, but that is an individual thing. I cannot remember any links between the 2 clubs which goes beyond football apart from the first match post Hillsbrough between LFC and Celtic.

However, your thread is about LFC having an allegiance with one of the Old Firm, not a perception of an allegiance based on an individual supporters beliefs.
As a club, there is no reason for LFC to have an allegiance with any club and personally, Idon't perceive one either

[Red Chilli]

How they **** are LFC a protestant club now?

Well, it's not, not "now" anyway. LFC is a global club these days. However, in the past LFC was perceived as a Protestant club and the Blue****e were perceived as a bunch of ***** as well as a catholic club

[publiusscipio]

Liverpool were very much a prody club. many of our early players were scottish protestents.

Thankfully, such ****e has long since passed and we probably have more links with celtic now. I'm pretty sure hey were the 1st club we played after hillsborough.

As for YNWA, I've heard it said many times they did sing it before us. If thats true or not, I don't know.

The Glasgow Rangers chap i spoke to objected to my singing Fields of Anfield Road as it was Fields of Athenry to him. I countered that it was an adopted tune of Liverpool with altered words, also that YNWA had been adopted closely by ourselves. I wasn't about to offend or argue with him, meanwhile I stood my ground diplomatically yet staunchly!!

"Such ****e" with respect is still recent history. My grandfathers related to it and they are in living memory for me and I respected them both. However things pass away and sectarianism has passed away in Liverpool, though not in Glasgow as yet.. I relate to Glasgow as a city and to their mentality being like minded to Liverpool. This is heartfelt by me.

[publiusscipio]

How they **** are LFC a protestant club now?

I HATE both Celtic Football Club and Rangers Football Club btw.
Secterian ***** both of them.

If you want to know if Liverpool have a protestant history then simply look it up, Marky.

[MrMichael]

There is no defined sectarianism with relation to LFC, and that's something I'm extremely happy about. You would probably say that there is an obvious affinity between us and Celtic, ynwa, Dalglish, and their support fo the HJC campaigns. But the historical link, when denomination of christian religion actually mattered in England, is with Rangers. Thats ace. In Northern Ireland when I was growing up I can't remember any particular religious or cultural identification being applied to being a red; I knew our supporters from both staunchly catholic and protestant families.

[Johnny]

How they **** are LFC a protestant club now?

I HATE both Celtic Football Club and Rangers Football Club btw.
Secterian ***** both of them.

We`ve had this before Mark and you still insist that Celtic are a sectarian Club




.So much evidence to the contrary was presented and you still type this BS.I better stop now before the Ref appears and books me again.

[Johnny]

Liverpool/Celtic Link










http://http://www.est1892.co.uk/foru...ghlight=Celtic

[royzared]

If I remember correctly Everton did not a sign Protestant player till the late 60s.
Liverpool had been signing anyone with talent for well over a decade at this time.
I do not remember sectarian songs being sung at Anfield when we played Celtic in the 60s.I do remember the respect because they were hard ****ers,but there was very little trouble in the town centre or in the ground.
I think a mutual respect was formed around this time.