Will the real SG please stand up?

[paulcooper4]

I see how it works now;
I express an opinion, somebody on the internet who doesn't know me calls me a clown and then spouts some bollocks analagy that makes no sense.
I think I get it, here's my response;

You sir, can **** right off.
I bet you think I should go and buy a second hand Volvo and drive it backwards down the M6 wearing nothing but a pair of orange pants?

[thesilverfoxlfc]

Ive said it for ages, Alonso doesnt play the way he can when he plays with Stevie, Alonso just sits there short passes doesnt stamp his authority on the game, no longer do we see the 40 yard pin pointing passing that made Xabi the best passer in the Prem if not the world.

[Frank Leroux]

This does raise the question - do we need Steven Gerrard?
When fit, I would prefer Alonso alongside Mascherano.
Alonso comes out of his shell when Gerrard isn't around, Masch is supreme in the 'Hamann' role.
Rather than stick Gerrard out wide right which he clearly dislikes, could it be that the time has come to sell him to the highest bidder?
The funds raised could overhall one or two other problem positions, wide left/left back/second striker, even wide right if Pennant decides he's lost interest.

Without having read the vast bulk of this thread - I have to take my hat off to JohnnyH for raising this taboo option. Good stuff.

Gerrard may be a problem wrt the balance of this team. Undoubtedly a great player but he needs a focus (position) to channel his talents. Could he even work as an out-and-out second striker? Not just behind Torres but alongside?

Good man JohnnyH

Frank.

[el matador]

The simple fact is that Gerrard misses Xabi.

I really doubt that. Steven Gerrard needs to be unleashed on the opposite defence without wondering whether the person sitting behind him can actually protect that back four. Xabi is a fantastic playmaker in his own right and can play instead of Gerrard but not with him. As balague said alonso plays deep but that does not mean that he is a defensive midfielder.

People should also remember that Gerrard is a human being. After being involved in an accident with a child, im not really surprised that his mind was not on the game last night.

£100k per week or not - could you play football after seeing a kid injured like that ?

[el matador]

This does raise the question - do we need Steven Gerrard?
When fit, I would prefer Alonso alongside Mascherano.
Alonso comes out of his shell when Gerrard isn't around, Masch is supreme in the 'Hamann' role.
Rather than stick Gerrard out wide right which he clearly dislikes, could it be that the time has come to sell him to the highest bidder?
The funds raised could overhall one or two other problem positions, wide left/left back/second striker, even wide right if Pennant decides he's lost interest.

Having seen Benitez' work first hand in spain i knew immediately that he would begin to curtail gerrard's influence on the team. For 3 or so seasons him and owen basically carried us but Benitez believes in systems and not individuals. Gerrard dominated every aspect of our play and was owen's main supply line for goals. It was becoming the owen and gerrard show every week.

Hence the purchase of Alonso. He was bought as a REPLACEMENT for gerrard who benitez was led to believe was on the verge of joining chelsea. When this did not happen he was left with 2 first choice playmakers. I still believe that Benitez would not be unhappy if Gerrard left.

I believe he has to stay as he is a complete one off. A player who can do everything. The complete midfield player and one of the best players to ever play for liverpool.

[paulcooper4]

I really doubt that. Steven Gerrard needs to be unleashed on the opposite defence without wondering whether the person sitting behind him can actually protect that back four. Xabi is a fantastic playmaker in his own right and can play instead of Gerrard but not with him. As balague said alonso plays deep but that does not mean that he is a defensive midfielder.

People should also remember that Gerrard is a human being. After being involved in an accident with a child, im not really surprised that his mind was not on the game last night.

£100k per week or not - could you play football after seeing a kid injured like that ?

Stevey looked pretty pleased with himself in the pics I seen of him and the manc kid in the hozzy to be honest.

[Kenneth]

People should also remember that Gerrard is a human being. After being involved in an accident with a child, im not really surprised that his mind was not on the game last night.

£100k per week or not - could you play football after seeing a kid injured like that ?

Yes, I don't think it would be particularly distracting.

[kewellnthegang]

lets carry on stevie bashing

he is to blame for our terrible predicament of being undefeated in the league and only a few points off top !!!!!!!

apologies for stealing this but read this article

this fella has either found out stevie is banging his mrs or is just thick

the fella is not overrated and everyone has a slump - im not givin it the big one but i know the fella personally and articles like this do me bonce in

im sure i will get some smart ass comments but read what this fella says - well written/worded yes but come on eh ?

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ab10c2b57593f2124c8d56beb2ef71d5&topic=195201.0

[kewellnthegang]

am off to the ac milan website to find someone insisting kaka is ****e now

[Parm]

Far too long to read! But I managed to get the point the guy does not like Stevie at all! He is very harsh upon the lad, especially re: Olympaikos, SG himself admitted after the match he'd played ****. As for the the CL final, man, the tactics were wrong, but once Rafa adjusted it Gerrard was able to take the game by the scruff of the neck almost straight away.
But as was mentioned earlier today, some people just like to moan and see the worst in players, regardless of what the player does, esp when the chips are down.

[kewellnthegang]

Far too long to read! But I managed to get the point the guy does not like Stevie at all! He is very harsh upon the lad, especially re: Olympaikos, SG himself admitted after the match he'd played ****. As for the the CL final, man, the tactics were wrong, but once Rafa adjusted it Gerrard was able to take the game by the scruff of the neck almost straight away.
But as was mentioned earlier today, some people just like to moan and see the worst in players, regardless of what the player does, esp when the chips are down.

dont get me wrong fella no one is above criticism but ffs !!!!

i think sunday i,ll give te game a miss and be lazy round the house - make a change top hear the mrs moaning rather than the "knowledgable" liverpool fans

football dont ya just love it

[Parm]

dont get me wrong fella no one is above criticism but ffs !!!!

i think sunday i,ll give te game a miss and be lazy round the house - make a change top hear the mrs moaning rather than the "knowledgable" liverpool fans

football dont ya just love it

fully agree with you, no one is above criticism but that guy was well off the mark!

funny you should mention Kaka, apparently he's moaning about Ancelotti playing him on the wide right!

[kewellnthegang]

fully agree with you, no one is above criticism but that guy was well off the mark!

funny you should mention Kaka, apparently he's moaning about Ancelotti playing him on the wide right!

i believe so
i wonder if kaka has ever had a bad few games and had the fans on his back

[Parm]

i believe so
i wonder if kaka has ever had a bad few games and had the fans on his back

especially as he has had that broken toe as well. Man I knew his playing for England would **** his form up.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

I think we should just close the Football thread until saturday morn