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    #16
    Originally posted by friedk View Post
    Just before the international break I saw an article in the independent about the number of rotations/changes made by each team.

    Liverpool were the same as Arsenal and had made less than every other side bar Blackburn.

    The next time a reporter mentions rotation I wish they would look at the other teams by way of comparison.

    Arsenal haven't changed their side in a while, but apparently 5 of them are carrying knocks and playing through the pain barrier, and we're not even a quarter of the way through the season.

    If we win our game in hand we're second in the table. From one of the worst away records in the league, we currently have the best.

    We haven't played well since the international break, but don't forget the football we were playing before that - with the same players everyone is now saying are so ****.

    We've got to turn it around quickly, but come Feb/March I have no doubt we will be the sharpest side in the league, and provided we are close to the top we have every chance of winning it.

    Last season I think we were the top side from November; the season before we were the top side from end of September, but both times we were already well out of the title race.

    This season we're still very much in the title race, have a better squad, a top quality striker. We are having a tough time, but take say Vidic & Scholes out of United and see how well they cope.

    The sooner Alonso and Agger return the better.
    Thank **** for that - good post

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      #17
      Originally posted by CAD View Post
      Still 62 changes over 12 matches this season, and used 34 substitutes is

      No, no its not if you actually look at the fixtures played in but dont let that stop your agenda.
      Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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        #18
        Originally posted by The Glove View Post
        No, no its not if you actually look at the fixtures played in but dont let that stop your agenda.
        What do you mean? I didn't read it all. Agenda? It's not 62 rotations?

        hmm...

        It sounds like a Prince song doesn't it:

        62 rotations in a one nightstand.


        We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.

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          #19
          Well its you who harps on about rotation and ROTATION isnt it? Id say thats some sort of agenda.

          Look at the games and we played in the period. Look at the teams. We played a ****e French side in the CL qualifer so we rested players, so that'll be 5 ish changes from the game before, then the team will have changed back, so that makes 10 changes. Same again for the return leg. Then throw in the 15 odd changes between the game before, during and after the Carling cup. Thats 35 perfectly reasonable changes. Then throw in the game afetr the internationals with injuries and one of our regulars travelling to Austrailia 3 days before the game, thats another 3/4 changes. Then throw in the 5 changes from mid week. So you are looking at the majority of the changes being for 3/4 'lesser' games and one international break.


          Do you honestly believe that Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd would not have done the same? I am willing to bet that if you took out the Tolouse games, our ROTATION (or is it rotation) would be about the same as theirs. But dont let that stop you.
          Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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            #20
            Originally posted by The Glove View Post
            Well its you who harps on about rotation and ROTATION isnt it? Id say thats some sort of agenda.

            Look at the games and we played in the period. Look at the teams. We played a ****e French side in the CL qualifer so we rested players, so that'll be 5 ish changes from the game before, then the team will have changed back, so that makes 10 changes. Same again for the return leg. Then throw in the 15 odd changes between the game before, during and after the Carling cup. Thats 35 perfectly reasonable changes. Then throw in the game afetr the internationals with injuries and one of our regulars travelling to Austrailia 3 days before the game, thats another 3/4 changes. Then throw in the 5 changes from mid week. So you are looking at the majority of the changes being for 3/4 'lesser' games and one international break.


            Do you honestly believe that Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd would not have done the same? I am willing to bet that if you took out the Tolouse games, our ROTATION (or is it rotation) would be about the same as theirs. But dont let that stop you.
            People should have their own opinions.

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              #21
              Originally posted by fredo View Post
              People should have their own opinions.

              Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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                #22
                Originally posted by The Glove View Post
                No, no its not if you actually look at the fixtures played in but dont let that stop your agenda.
                Originally posted by The Glove View Post
                Well its you who harps on about rotation and ROTATION isnt it? Id say thats some sort of agenda.

                Look at the games and we played in the period. Look at the teams. We played a ****e French side in the CL qualifer so we rested players, so that'll be 5 ish changes from the game before, then the team will have changed back, so that makes 10 changes. Same again for the return leg. Then throw in the 15 odd changes between the game before, during and after the Carling cup. Thats 35 perfectly reasonable changes. Then throw in the game afetr the internationals with injuries and one of our regulars travelling to Austrailia 3 days before the game, thats another 3/4 changes. Then throw in the 5 changes from mid week. So you are looking at the majority of the changes being for 3/4 'lesser' games and one international break.


                Do you honestly believe that Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd would not have done the same? I am willing to bet that if you took out the Tolouse games, our ROTATION (or is it rotation) would be about the same as theirs. But dont let that stop you.
                Originally posted by The Glove View Post
                That's being petty. Just pointed it out to you and it can be irritating.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by The Glove View Post
                  Well its you who harps on about rotation and ROTATION isnt it? Id say thats some sort of agenda.

                  Look at the games and we played in the period. Look at the teams. We played a ****e French side in the CL qualifer so we rested players, so that'll be 5 ish changes from the game before, then the team will have changed back, so that makes 10 changes. Same again for the return leg. Then throw in the 15 odd changes between the game before, during and after the Carling cup. Thats 35 perfectly reasonable changes. Then throw in the game afetr the internationals with injuries and one of our regulars travelling to Austrailia 3 days before the game, thats another 3/4 changes. Then throw in the 5 changes from mid week. So you are looking at the majority of the changes being for 3/4 'lesser' games and one international break.


                  Do you honestly believe that Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd would not have done the same? I am willing to bet that if you took out the Tolouse games, our ROTATION (or is it rotation) would be about the same as theirs. But dont let that stop you.
                  The rotation has been too heavy. The squad isn't good enough to handle it. It's obvious for everybody now. Or, it damn well should be. You can dress the ROTATION fact up and play with it. Call it Barbie. Have a teaparty. It won't change the fact that 62 is too much...but don't let that stop you.


                  We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by fredo View Post
                    That's being petty. Just pointed it out to you and it can be irritating.

                    Yeah ok.
                    Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by CAD View Post
                      The rotation has been too heavy. The squad isn't good enough to handle it. It's obvious for everybody now. Or, it damn well should be. You can dress the ROTATION fact up and play with it. Call it Barbie. Have a teaparty. It won't change the fact that 62 is too much...but don't let that stop you.


                      But it hasnt. The games with the heavy rotation we have won. We slapped Tolouse, we beat Reading, we drew with pompey. Midweek, well thats not rotations fault we played the worst in years. If it was down to rotation we'd have played like that every week for the last 3 seasons. Thise are the games in which 3 quarters of our roation has been in.
                      Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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                        #26
                        if people want to blame rotation, then start blaming rafa, if people think rotation the problem they at the same time think rafa is the problem, so if you want him out voice your opinions, rafa vill not change his rotation policy simple as. in the last 6 years he has reached the champeons league final 4 times, one it once. he has one two league titles, 1 uefa cup, and 1 fa cup. all of this has been done by his plan of rotation, it's his style and what he does, so if you want it stop say you want did of benitez. i for one wont, i see the team he's building up, i see what he's doing for the future, he want's to build a team of equally great players that will be 100% fit all season long, we have the most promising youth team in the country equal only by arsenal. if we can stay with the top for the next 5-6 games will will be challeging at the end of may as we are the team that has the best record in the second half of the season for the last few years. and another thing is that i don't expect a title this year, i expect a challenge and i would be happy being close second this year and build on that the following year, but i have faith that we can win it this year...
                        "I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

                        "You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto

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                          #27
                          Funny before the media labled us with Rotation we used to call it giving the other players a go.

                          Arsenal field "youngsters" in last years carling cup and everyone states that has bode them well this year.

                          We have a big squad and they should all on thier day be able to do the job at hand, its not like thier medicre.

                          Why do we have to look for a scapegoat to poor performances, we all seem to want to balme someone.

                          End of the day we played crap and that's down to the starting 11 on the pitch.

                          If players can't handle being left out for either playing bad or rested then they're not the types we need.

                          No team will win any major league with 14 players like we did all thoose years ago.

                          Everyone complained re using Torres every match made no difference wed.

                          Did the media make an issue where there wasn't one but in turn they've now created one
                          Its times like these we learn to live again FF

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by The Glove View Post
                            But it hasnt. The games with the heavy rotation we have won. We slapped Tolouse, we beat Reading, we drew with pompey. Midweek, well thats not rotations fault we played the worst in years. If it was down to rotation we'd have played like that every week for the last 3 seasons. Thise are the games in which 3 quarters of our roation has been in.
                            Definite improvement.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by fredo View Post
                              Definite improvement.


                              Im overjoyed you approve.
                              Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by The Glove View Post
                                Im overjoyed you approve.
                                I get the best out of people. I should be a mod.

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