Crouch storms out?

[kewellnthegang]

I'd keep Dirk anyday over Crouch though.

not a lot in it though lovely ?

[Shaggy]

you love the Dirk dont you Shaggy

I've got nothing against him - on the contrary in fact, I think he's a great bloke - I'm just incredibly frustrated that he's almost always preferred to a better goalscorer.

I don't think he's very good though, no.

[tomasjj]

Shaggs is in love with Crouch, so he has no credibility on this issue.
A bit like Carheex on Alonso.

[Shaggy]

Shaggs is in love with Crouch, so he has no credibility on this issue.
A bit like Carheex on Alonso.

Not in the slightest. It's the same when I've been defending Crouch, since day one, against my Bitter and Manc mates. He's not world class, he's not amazing, he's just a very good player. All I ever said was 'he's a very good player' against comments like 'he's wank', 'he's ****ing ****e' and some other height-related jibes.

He's not ****. He's a good player, he's answered all of his critics time and time again, and IMO Rafa has grossly mis-managed him of late.

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

Chrouch storms out!

Is it maybe because he's heard the rumors that Rafa wants to get Guinean national team captain Pascal Feindouno in the Jan window (from .no)
PF is a St Etienne attacker/"in the hole" mf with 30 goals in 103 appearances.

[Harv]

Chrouch storms out!

Is it maybe because he's heard the rumors that Rafa wants to get Guinean national team captain Pascal Feindouno in the Jan window (from .no)
PF is a St Etienne attacker/"in the hole" mf with 30 goals in 103 appearances.

i used to get that guy in Champ Manager. he was class!


ive never seen him play though

[tomasjj]

Chrouch storms out!

Is it maybe because he's heard the rumors that Rafa wants to get Guinean national team captain Pascal Feindouno in the Jan window (from .no)
PF is a St Etienne attacker/"in the hole" mf with 30 goals in 103 appearances.

Smokescreen for Nasri ....

[Neil Young]

Not in the slightest. It's the same when I've been defending Crouch, since day one, against my Bitter and Manc mates. He's not world class, he's not amazing, he's just a very good player. All I ever said was 'he's a very good player' against comments like 'he's wank', 'he's ****ing ****e' and some other height-related jibes.

He's not ****. He's a good player, he's answered all of his critics time and time again, and IMO Rafa has grossly mis-managed him of late.

Much of that could be applied to Kuyt you know.

It's the same when I've been defending Kuyt, since whenever, against my Liverpool mates. He's not world class, he's not amazing, he's just a very good player. All I ever said was 'he's a very good player' against comments like he's wank', 'he's ****ing ****e' and some pace-related jibes.

He's not ****. He's a good player.

Whether he'll answer his critics remains an open question but then, to be honest, I don't entirely agree that Crouch has completely confounded criticism against him.

[Shaggy]

Much of that could be applied to Kuyt you know.

It's the same when I've been defending Kuyt, since whenever, against my Liverpool mates. He's not world class, he's not amazing, he's just a very good player. All I ever said was 'he's a very good player' against comments like he's wank', 'he's ****ing ****e' and some pace-related jibes.

He's not ****. He's a good player.

Whether he'll answer his critics remains an open question but then, to be honest, I don't entirely agree that Crouch has completely confounded criticism against him.

I appreciate that but Kuyt has never been perceived as a laughing stock. He wasn't known to English fans for being "that beanpole" at clubs like QPR, Norwich and Southampton.

Crouch has always been up against it and has to do a hell of a lot more than any other footballer I can think of to earn people's respect - however wrong that might be. Hence a hell of a lot more muck has been thrown at Crouch - usually sensationalist, hysterical and histrionic crap.

If Kuyt had Crouch's background (and appearance), I dare say he'd be one of the most-criticised players in LFC history.

[Neil Young]

I appreciate that but Kuyt has never been perceived as a laughing stock. He wasn't known to English fans for being "that beanpole" at clubs like QPR, Norwich and Southampton.

Crouch has always been up against it and has to do a hell of a lot more than any other footballer I can think of to earn people's respect - however wrong that might be. Hence a hell of a lot more muck has been thrown at Crouch - usually sensationalist, hysterical and histrionic crap.

If Kuyt had Crouch's background (and appearance), I dare say he'd be one of the most-criticised players in LFC history.

I agree with you about Crouch (apart from, to an extent, the 'critics' bit).

[Craig_H]

You guys make fair points.

DJS - I hope you're not implying I am a member of the RCDNW brigade;

No no mate, i wasnt intending to imply that.

remember a few weeks ago I was with you and Cobain criticising the team Rafa put out at Pompey, and subsequently where I've argued that Rafa doesn't seem to be rotate as efficiently or as wisely as the other top managers. But remember Rafa is taking a long term view whereby we are primed to be at our peak in the final stages of the season - so let's see how we go then before judging him and his methods too soon.

That's utterly pointless though, if we're 10-20 points off the pace by the latter stages...as ALWAYS happens.

[kopash]

let's be honest. In an ideal world we'd sell BOTH Crouch and Kuyt and have, say, Elano and one other instead e.g. Benni McCarthy

[sid]

Best post on this thread by a mile, and spot on too.

Could you get your head up any further there pal???? :whatever:

[AFII]

Smokescreen for Nasri ....

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

let's be honest. In an ideal world we'd sell BOTH Crouch and Kuyt and have, say, Elano and one other instead e.g. Benni McCarthy

Let's rob Citeh of their finest players, like Elano, Petrov and Richards. That would shape us real good!
Not very likely, I know, with Sinatra being loaded, they don't have to sell anyone.