Barca set sights on Mascherano.

[kurtangle01]

I remember West Ham's bosses saying similar things about Tevez and look what happened there

It's a bit different though, don't you think?

And to be fair West Ham wanted rid where as we obviously don't.

[kurtangle01]

Really, it will be interesting to see how this pans out in the summer

Well, you seem to know so much, eh?

[AFII]

The deal is done when it comes down to the transfer fee, so it's up to us to close the deal.

We are just waiting to see if we can get him for a cheaper price but £18m is the most we will have to pay for him.

[carrsim]

Doesn't Joorabchian have a say in it?

the article (i think it was kay in the times) intimated the deal is in place its just up to liverpool to ratify- and the reason we haven't is that we might get him cheaper.

we paid 1.5m for the loan and first refusal, so i don't think kia can back out- or he'd be in breach of contract

now the next question is if FIFA decide that 3rd party ownerships are competely banned, does that mean the contract between Kia and LFC become null and void- or existing deals have to be honoured?

either way, i'm not worried- if rafa really wants him to stay we'll get him

[Red Chilli]

It's a bit different though, don't you think?

And to be fair West Ham wanted rid where as we obviously don't.

Why is it different? It's the same man at the top who's making the decisions for these players-Joorabchian.

West Ham may have wanted rid but they insisted to the bitter end "He is our player". When Joorabchian threatened to prove to Sheff Utd that he wasn't West Ham's player they mysteriously let a 20 million pound player of theirs, who had rescued their Premiership arses, walk away for a fraction of his value

[Red Chilli]

Well, you seem to know so much, eh?

Unlike yourself, I have never claimed to be "sure" about any of the details of these deals

[paulcooper4]

Kewell Gerrard Mascherano Pennant

imo

also dependant on Kewell being fit

Nice to see you back kopdan fella. How are you mate?

[Red Chilli]

the article (i think it was kay in the times) intimated the deal is in place its just up to liverpool to ratify- and the reason we haven't is that we might get him cheaper.

we paid 1.5m for the loan and first refusal, so i don't think kia can back out- or he'd be in breach of contract

now the next question is if FIFA decide that 3rd party ownerships are competely banned, does that mean the contract between Kia and LFC become null and void- or existing deals have to be honoured?

either way, i'm not worried- if rafa really wants him to stay we'll get him

I'm just suspicious. Look at the way Kia made idiots out of 2 sets of West Ham administrators.

He really took them apart and they tamely surrendered. I think this lad is too clever and has too powerful a legal team to not protect his own interests and exploit his players to the maximum.

[Alpha]

Joorabchian isn't going to let us sign him unless we are one of the most high profile teams in the world. If we don't get through our CL group and we don't do anything in the league then we could see Mascherano whipped away from us whether Mascherano likes it or not.

I'm pretty confident Joorabchian would sell Mascherano to Crystal Palace if they met the asking price.

Unless you are talking about an offer to take Masher on loan again, I don't see why Joorabchian would care to protect an investment he could cash-in on.

[kurtangle01]

Why is it different? It's the same man at the top who's making the decisions for these players-Joorabchian.

West Ham may have wanted rid but they insisted to the bitter end "He is our player". When Joorabchian threatened to prove to Sheff Utd that he wasn't West Ham's player they mysteriously let a 20 million pound player of theirs, who had rescued their Premiership arses, walk away for a fraction of his value

It's different because the deal we signed with Joorbichan is entirely different to the deal he signed with West Ham. Our deal is within the rules of the game and we don't have to give into any demands like West Ham did. The West Ham deal was very dodgy and landed them in hot water and they continued on with that agreement even after they'd been caught.

Have you conveniently forgotten this to try and support your point of view?

Anyway it's Saturday night and I can't be arsed going through this. The Juan Diaz fight starts at 3.00am and I don't want to miss it. At this rate I will though because we'll be harping in about this on three and a half hours time.

Lets just wait and see, eh?

[Red Chilli]

I'm pretty confident Joorabchian would sell Mascherano to Crystal Palace if they met the asking price.

Unless you are talking about an offer to take Masher on loan again, I don't see why Joorabchian would care to protect an investment he could cash-in on.

Is there an asking price? If Joorabchian controls Mascherano for his whole career he could move him around every couple of years, each time getting a better deal and make more money that 17.5 million. Couldn't he?

[AFII]

I'm pretty confident Joorabchian would sell Mascherano to Crystal Palace if they met the asking price.

Unless you are talking about an offer to take Masher on loan again, I don't see why Joorabchian would care to protect an investment he could cash-in on.

He can't do anything to get more than £18m for Mascherano. If we pay the £18m then he is our player and there is nothing Kia can do about it. He can't cancel the deal.

[kurtangle01]

Unlike yourself, I have never claimed to be "sure" about any of the details of these deals

Whatever. I'm not claiming things as fact and never have done. At least my opinion is balanced and quite fair unlike yours which based on your apparent dislike of Joorbichan.

I remember when we were about to sign Mascherano. And you were on about not wanting him etc...

You were proved wrong about him then with many of the things you said and this is you trying to get your cance to say " I told you so! "

[Red Chilli]

It's different because the deal we signed with Joorbichan is entirely different to the deal he signed with West Ham. Our deal is within the rules of the game and we don't have to give into any demands like West Ham did. The West Ham deal was very dodgy and landed them in hot water and they continued on with that agreement even after they'd been caught.

Have you conveniently forgotten this to try and support your point of view?

No, but unlike you I don't know anything about our deal or the West Ham deal, but I do know that we took Mascherano from West Ham before all the Tevez thing kicked off and it's possible that our hold on Mascherano is as tight as West Ham's was on Tevez.

[Red Chilli]

Whatever. I'm not claiming things as fact and never have done. At least my opinion is balanced and quite fair unlike yours which based on your apparent dislike of Joorbichan.

I remember when we were about to sign Mascherano. And you were on about not wanting him etc...

You were proved wrong about him then with many of the things you said and this is you trying to get your cance to say " I told you so! "

I don't know where you're getting these corkers from. Your opinion is a little bit Rose tinted in my opinion and conveniently ignoring that Joorabchian has a history of dodgy deals.