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  • El Jefecito
    Shankly
    • Jul 2006
    • 7712

    #226
    Originally posted by carheex
    Sorry, my comments weren't all directed at you - i just wanted to bring them up again whilst replying to you. Anyway....WOOHOO!! 3 points!
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    • El Diego
      Dalglish
      • Jul 2006
      • 3375

      #227
      Originally posted by keniget
      Rafa must have been high.
      Yep me and Rafa had some ganja before the game.
      I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06

      Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Darth Marty
        Quite Contrary
        • Dec 2006
        • 10614

        #228
        For what its worth I thought Stevie played well today, only thing I could see that he wasnt doing as well as normal was the defensive duties, but that said signs that hes coming back to somewhere near his best. It all bodes well for the rest of the season. As for the subbing...whilst it was unexpected it certainly paid dividends, if that was luck or judgement remains to be proven, however I am willing to give Rafa the benefit of the doubt.
        We won when not playing particularly well, against everton, away, and are still unbeaten in the league. Good day in my opinion.
        Oh, Stevie didnt look that unhappy at the final whistle and shortly after in my opinion either.
        In Rafa I trust.
        RAFA

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        • dww
          humourless curmudgeon
          • Jul 2006
          • 29926

          #229
          Originally posted by fredo
          I think most of Everton's chances came from set pieces or long punts aimed at our center backs. These kind or matches are rarely played by the book anyway, it's always a battle out there, and we dealt with it better, as we tried to play it on the deck. Apart from that freakish own goal conceded by Sammy, I don't think they had too many chances.
          Considering the quality of their team and the fact they only had one player of any creative quality on the pitch (Arteta) they should not have been allowed to dominate long periods of the game like they did. There were too many times when I think they were one pass away from opening us up. Overall we defended resolutely but if we play anything like that against Arsenal we will get spanked IMO.
          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
          -- William Blake

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          • Guest

            #230
            Originally posted by carheex
            We wouldn't have won the first penalty or had everton reduced to 10 men, and therefore would not have won the game if it wasn't for gerrard. There's another one for your book of facts!
            Yes, but he still had to benefit from a good ball from The Crow as he went on the run ending with the goal, making it a team game.

            Stevie did pull us back into the game but he's trying to do every thing by himself. Instead of playing it simple, he tries the difficult thing, maybe Rafa wanted a more calculated game at that stage. I think we had 2 clear cut chances after he went off. We still had match winners out there.

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            • paulcooper4
              Hodgsoned
              • Jul 2006
              • 11914

              #231
              Originally posted by carheex
              WOOHOO!! 3 points!
              Thats more like it. Cant believe how few comments on here today are in a similar vein!!

              ****inell, can you imagine bluekiper if them *******s had of beaten us? No matter how **** they played or how they won, every prick would just be celebrating. We have some right whoppers following us lar

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              • Guest

                #232
                Originally posted by dww
                Considering the quality of their team and the fact they only had one player of any creative quality on the pitch (Arteta) they should not have been allowed to dominate long periods of the game like they did. There were too many times when I think they were one pass away from opening us up. Overall we defended resolutely but if we play anything like that against Arsenal we will get spanked IMO.
                We should gain some confidence out of this game and if we beat Besiktas during the week that should see us in a more positive frame of mind for the Arsenal game. I think we'll win, as Arsenal won't come for a point.

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                • dww
                  humourless curmudgeon
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 29926

                  #233
                  Originally posted by SpeedyG
                  Only one of then was supposed to be playing RM. SG!
                  But he was tasked to roam inside. It doesn't have to be the obvious playing in a theoretical formation match up who covers. Gerrard was effectively given a free attacking role by Rafa and used it. If you give that freedom to someone you have to task someone else to cover the spaces they inevitably leave.

                  Originally posted by SpeedyG
                  To suggest that Rafa should have been playing RM is just disingenuous
                  "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                  -- William Blake

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                  • Shanks
                    Shankly
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7172

                    #234
                    Originally posted by SpeedyG
                    Penny for your thoughts.

                    Originally Posted by SpeedyG
                    I'm convinced that Rafa thinks that SG is a trouble maker

                    You're saying Stevie G is a trouble maker.

                    Thats my thoughts,

                    is that what you're saying??

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                    • El Jefecito
                      Shankly
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 7712

                      #235
                      Originally posted by dww
                      But he was tasked to roam inside. It doesn't have to be the obvious playing in a theoretical formation match up who covers. Gerrard was effectively given a free attacking role by Rafa and used it. If you give that freedom to someone you have to task someone else to cover the spaces they inevitably leave.


                      I'm assuming he was aked to balance covering Finnan with "roaming inside". He didn't do that. Poor old SF was left out to dry.
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                      • El Jefecito
                        Shankly
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 7712

                        #236
                        Originally posted by Shanks007
                        You're saying Stevie G is a trouble maker.

                        Thats my thoughts,

                        is that what you're saying??
                        Sort of. I think Rafa and SG see the world of football in entirely different ways. Both are right, but both are incompatiable with each other.

                        It's a dick swinging competition which Rafa WILL win.
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                        • Shanks
                          Shankly
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7172

                          #237
                          But the manager will always win with a decision,

                          No player is bigger than the club, and if he is then the the club will not succeed.


                          Look at Mourinho.

                          Terry, Lampard, Drogba, etc.

                          No need to explain.

                          Chelsea are going down the pan because of dressing room unrest.

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                          • El Jefecito
                            Shankly
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 7712

                            #238
                            Originally posted by Shanks007
                            But the manager will always win with a decision,

                            No player is bigger than the club, and if he is then the the club will not succeed.


                            Look at Mourinho.

                            Terry, Lampard, Drogba, etc.

                            No need to explain.

                            Chelsea are going down the pan because of dressing room unrest.

                            I think that is what I was saying. Albeit without such a good avatar
                            The Crushing Machine MKII

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                            • Shanks
                              Shankly
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7172

                              #239
                              Originally posted by SpeedyG
                              I think that is what I was saying.
                              Cheers dude.

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                              • El Jefecito
                                Shankly
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 7712

                                #240
                                Originally posted by Shanks007
                                Cheers dude.
                                The Crushing Machine MKII

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