Clattenberg dumped!

[Morph]

How does the highlighted bit fit with this?

both instances the ref gave a yellow card (or was going to give), yet the letter of the law indicates a red is required, thus I thought both incidents reflected clatenbergs laid back attitude in the match

[Morph]

As Ben and I have pointed out, there wasn't contact so you can't say for sure it was dangerous.

that's a funny way of looking at things, so what nevile should have done was stand there let kuyt fly into him possibly do him some damage, but be confident that it'd result in a red for kuyt, rather than jump out the way?

[Joe King]

that's a funny way of looking at things, so what nevile should have done was stand there let kuyt fly into him possibly do him some damage, but be confident that it'd result in a red for kuyt, rather than jump out the way?

There was no damage so there is no point in pulling out a red. That is what Neil and I are trying to say. Yes, had Neville stood there, it probably would have been a red. Neville probably wasn't thinking whether it was a two footed or sliding tackle, its instinctive for anyone playing the game, you always jump the tackler.

[Morph]

There was no damage so there is no point in pulling out a red. That is what Neil and I are trying to say. Yes, had Neville stood there, it probably would have been a red. Neville probably wasn't thinking whether it was a two footed or sliding tackle, its instinctive for anyone playing the game, you always jump the tackler.

why should it be any different if the player jumped out the way, id wager more people will say it was worthy of a straight red than a yellow

[Joe King]

why should it be any different if the player jumped out the way, id wager more people will say it was worthy of a straight red than a yellow

I know it shouldn't but Kuyt would say he didn't intend to damage Neville. The rule says whether there is any intend to damage, referee didn't see it that way so we move on.

[Morph]

I know it shouldn't but Kuyt would say he didn't intend to damage Neville. The rule says whether there is any intend to damage, referee didn't see it that way so we move on.

well actually the way i understand it's when the player goes into the tackle with two feet off the floor, it's the feet off the floor that's the issue here

[Neil Young]

So basically none of us really knows the law or how to apply it in this case.

[Morph]

So basically none of us really knows the law or how to apply it in this case.

probably not, it would be nice to have official answers in situations like this tho

[Joe King]

We aren't referees

[Johnny]

Clattenberg will have to sell the signed Liverpool shirt he recieved in July while travelling with our team to asia to make up for lost earnings this weekend.

[Neil Young]

probably not, it would be nice to have official answers in situations like this tho

I agree.

We aren't referees

Yet apparently everyone knows better than Clattenberg.

The worst are the ex-pro "talking arses"/experts who should know the laws but seem unable to keep up with the most basic changes. The ones who still bang on about daylight when assessing offside decisions for instance.

[Johnny]

We aren't referees

Just Judges.

[Morph]

The worst are the ex-pro "talking arses"/experts who should know the laws but seem unable to keep up with the most basic changes. The ones who still bang on about daylight when assessing offside decisions for instance.

I agree with this, it pains me when I hear them talking about offsides, i'm 'just a fan', yet i know it's offside when any part of the players body that can legally strike a ball is ahead of the last defender, so why don't these experts and ex-pro's know this

[Neil Young]

As requested by Mr MansonsSquint.

One, two, 1-2-3-4...

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

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Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
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Ah give or take a night or two
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But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

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That's how it goes
Everybody knows

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That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
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And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when youve done a line or two
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Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
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Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows its coming apart
Take one last look at this sacred heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Oh everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows

Thank you very much.

[tomasjj]

he left the floor, two feet off the ground, it's a sending off, I don't see how there can be any discussion on the matter

I don't agree with that logic.

By that logic every time a defender throws himself to block a shot, feet about the ground, it is a red card?

Cause that is what it looked like to me, Kuyt was looking to block, not to tackle.
It did look crazy though, so I can understand that there is debate.