Post match comments and profanities

[flyboy]

Rafa:- "I said to the players, good job!"

Reporter:- "Will your fans understand?"

Rafa:- "If the have seen the game, yes!"

What a load of ****e.

quite honestly it sounds like houllier all over again...harping about the number of chances that we created as if that is good enough.to play badly is one thing...but to come out with horse**** excuses is another.FFS rafa just call it the way everyone sees it.

[peekay]

We're the only 2 with any real faith left in Kuyt on the site it seems Art. Wanna form a new clique?

I like Kuyt. I think both him and voronin are very good partners to Torres. But I dont think neither of them have the class to lead a league challenge. But they have the potential to form a very effective strike partnership with Torres.

[ronan]

thing is are we going to throw 4 unfit players
i.e. players who havent played between 3 weeks and 3 months into a game this big and expect them to perform?
agger and kewell certainly wont be in the team
the other 2 are 50/50

[kopdan]

i've slept on it

conclusion

we play dire football at times. No ideas out there on the pitch.

BUT we do have some of the best players in the league

Rafa....please try to be more attacking, you might be surprised

that is all

[Sarb]

Can't be arsed to read every post or thread on Rafa, the game etc as quite frankly the number of threads started just takes the piss

The most worrying thing for me is that Rafa, Carra and Stevie thought they played well yesterday. Someone should tell them they were rubbish. Can't even pass the ball straight

No point sitting here slating the manager as that's been done to death. It's obvious we lost all momentum after the first international break. People can make their own minds up whether it was due to internationals or the rotation that took place afterwards.

For me though we are badly missing Agger. We have no central defender who can play the ball and what we get is Hyypia and Carragher either passing the ball to each other for two mins or hoofing it forward.

Brings me to another point. A lot of the goals/penalties we've conceded are of our own making. The number of times I've seen Reina just knock the ball to Carra then Carra plays it aimlessly and it comes straight back is unbelievable.

Quite frankly Carra and Hyypia have both been rubbish of late. Carra was mouthing off so much against Everton and was a liability at times. It's like he's on something.

Sunday is a massive game. There is no way Hyypia can play. It's got to be Arbeloa or Agger back in defence for me or we're in trouble.

And Rafa well.....great credentials but to me going through a bit of a crisis at the moment. A bit of stubborness is also present. Reminding a bit of how Houllier went towards the end of his tenure.

However, he's getting unecessary stick from the likes of Lawrenson, Green etc. At least he's got the balls to be a manager and make decisions. I'm getting ****ed off with all the press/media just slating us all the time. Started watching games with the tv muted now. It's boll*x. Yesterday Gray was harping on about Torres being our only goalscorer. It's like he finds something different to moan about each game

Personally I dont' think Rafa has lost the players. He's just lost the plot a bit

[Reece]

Sunday is a massive game. There is no way Hyypia can play. It's got to be Arbeloa or Agger back in defence for me or we're in trouble.

I'm actually starting to think that AFII's idea of playing Hobbs isn't such a bad one

[AFII]

i've slept on it

conclusion

we play dire football at times. No ideas out there on the pitch.

BUT we do have some of the best players in the league

Rafa....please try to be more attacking, you might be surprised

that is all

To be attacking isn't something Rafa is used to. He has always built his teams around a strong defense. He did it with Valencia and he has done that here.

The big difference between his Valencia and us are that they had excellent movement off the ball and our players almost stand still and don't show that they want the ball.

If the players got paid for how much they run then they wouldn't have got paid that much the last few games.

[kopdan]

To be attacking isn't something Rafa is used to. He has always built his teams around a strong defense. He did it with Valencia and he has done that here.

The big difference between his Valencia and us are that they had excellent movement off the ball and our players almost stand still and don't show that they want the ball.

If the players got paid for how much they run then they wouldn't have got paid that much the last few games.

fair enough

still boring to watch at times

[AFII]

I don't know what has happened. Last season we worked our socks off, we don't do that anymore.

I don't know how much effect Pako leaving have to do with it but our bad run started when he left us. We have not played a single good game since then.

Rafa discussed his tactics together with Pako. They were a great team. Pako is an excellent tactician and Rafa's tactics hasn't exactly been spot on since he left.

I would bring in Gary Mac as soon as possible.

[Reece]

I would bring in Gary Mac as soon as possible.

For once fella, I actually agree with you.

Don't think it will happen though.

[Red_hot]

I'm actually starting to think that AFII's idea of playing Hobbs isn't such a bad one

Hobbes?

[Reece]

Hobbes?

No he plays in goal

[AFII]

Our last games have showed how important Agger is for us. Carra isn't our most important defender anymore.

Agger is our new defensive king.

[Red_hot]

No he plays in goal

[Kaip]

3 weeks..boy

Congratulations to you and the missus Dan