Form..

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

..is temporary, class is permanent.

Mr M was coplaining that theres not enough new threads being started so I thought i`d help him out

For all the ****in whining about Rafa, assistant managers, where Stevey G should play, How old Sami is etc, the ONE AND ONLY REASON we are struggling at the moment is because we have a lot of players in **** form. This will recover, and thanks to the desire to not get beat this season we are still unbeaten in the league even though we are playing ****e.

Sooner or later we are going to click, having xabi back will help because his passing will help us a lot when were playing ****.

I have every confidence we will get it all back against arsenal. If we dont, and we get beat, DO YOUR JOB AS FANS AND KNUCLE DOWN BEHIND THE REDS!!!!

We will win the league, or be thereabouts. If we dont theres always next year

No the real reason we're ****e is because the manager is obsessed with ****in rotating the players to ****. Half the squad is alehouse. I mean look at what happens when we lose Agger and Alonso, people seem to believe that’s the reason we've been rubbish recently. It's nonsense. Nobodies getting a run of games anymore, there's no continuity or familiarity. 11 strangers every week. Nobody gets dropped anymore; fraudulent ***** like Pennant can play ****e and know they'll get back in next week. Resting Torres against Birmingham for tactical reasons. An Absolute piss take is that. Negative tactics. We play utterly ****e football at times. No creativity or dynamism going forward. Aside from Babel and Torres, no pace, skill or incisiveness in our forward options.

But aside from that we'll win the league.

No chance mate. Big changes required. Starting with Rafa getting his head out of his arse. Absolutely fed up with him at the moment.

Tell you what would be nice to see on Sunday. Us take the game to Arsenal and get stuck into them at a high tempo. Or will Rafa make 7 changes again, and will we sit back "Control the game" then get hit on the counter twice, have 15 shots at goal but never look like scoring. Rinse and repeat.

[pezzzer]

i love lfc now more than ever!

i just dont think we all 'get; what rotation does for the season, heres my take.

rafa picks from the whole 22 players available, from the start, we win some, lose some and draw some.

every other club picks the best 11 from day one, the usual suspects win most and by dec,jan are clear leaders.

every club suffers injuries BUT all other sides suffer injuries to there FIRST eleven,lfc water the damage down throughout the whole squad.

i dont think rafa expects us to be top of the league come dec/jan,with being the ONLY team rotating it just wouldnt happen.

but when our enemies are at there weakest, we will still be strong and make up the lost points when all others around us are having to use there unused and not match/battle ready reserves.

rafa will take all this on the chin because i TRULY believe that during feb/march we will romp it!!

just my 2 penneth

[Los Rojos]

I ****ing hope more than ever that we win the league just to shut some of these ****s up.

They'll probably be pissed off if we don't do the double.

[El Jefecito]

No the real reason we're ****e is because the manager is obsessed with ****in rotating the players to ****. Half the squad is alehouse. I mean look at what happens when we lose Agger and Alonso, people seem to believe that’s the reason we've been rubbish recently. It's nonsense. Nobodies getting a run of games anymore, there's no continuity or familiarity. 11 strangers every week. Nobody gets dropped anymore; fraudulent ***** like Pennant can play ****e and know they'll get back in next week. Resting Torres against Birmingham for tactical reasons. An Absolute piss take is that. Negative tactics. We play utterly ****e football at times. No creativity or dynamism going forward. Aside from Babel and Torres, no pace, skill or incisiveness in our forward options.

But aside from that we'll win the league.

No chance mate. Big changes required. Starting with Rafa getting his head out of his arse. Absolutely fed up with him at the moment.

Tell you what would be nice to see on Sunday. Us take the game to Arsenal and get stuck into them at a high tempo. Or will Rafa make 7 changes again, and will we sit back "Control the game" then get hit on the counter twice, have 15 shots at goal but never look like scoring. Rinse and repeat.

Another one on the media bandwagon. How can you be sure that the problem is rotation. You can't, but hey if the media say it, it must be true right.

I tend to form my OWN opinion on rotation. The rationale is:

Did we win the CL while rotating? Yes.
Did we win the FA cup while rotating? Yes.
Did we reach another CL final while rotating? Yes.
Did we achieve our highest ever points total in the EPL while rotating? Yes.

So FFS think before you blame everything on rotation!

[hairykewell]

To be honest I think we have been unlucky in some games. For example the tottenham game, we should have had that game wrapped up at half time. I thought we played great football in the first half. You're always going to play bad in the second half when you concede goals either side of half time. If we won that game people wouldn't have been talking as much.

People seem to forget that we are missing Alonso, Agger and Arbeloa and more recently Torres. These guys are key to our success. The defence has looked super shaky since Arbeloa and Agger have been out.

The only game I blame Benitez for not grabbing the 3 points was at Portsmouth because they're a good team and he rested our 2 of our best players in Gerrard and Torres.

We're still in there and if we can win on Sunday we'll only be 3 points away from the leaders. The Arse have Van Persie and Senderos out I think so hopefully it will be a touch easier. I'm a bit worried about our defence though they could tear us to shreds.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Another one on the media bandwagon. How can you be sure that the problem is rotation. You can't, but hey if the media say it, it must be true right.

I tend to form my OWN opinion on rotation. The rationale is:

Did we win the CL while rotating? Yes.
Did we win the FA cup while rotating? Yes.
Did we reach another CL final while rotating? Yes.
Did we achieve our highest ever points total in the EPL while rotating? Yes.

So FFS think before you blame everything on rotation!

Read my post again.

Did I say it was the only problem?

No I didn't.

I don't read papers. I watch all the games. I form my own opinions.

Still haven't put me on the Ignore User option then?

[El Jefecito]

Read my post again.

Did I say it was the only problem?

No I didn't.

I don't read papers. I watch all the games. I form my own opinions.

Still haven't put me on the Ignore User option then?

Not yet

So how do you KNOW it is rotation?

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Not yet

So how do you KNOW it is rotation?

I believe it's a factor. Then again I'm just another know nothing **** fan.

When I see us play I see 11 players who aren't combining with each other, most of them are out of form, and we don't move it and pass it like a proper team. It looks disjointed.

Thinking back to 2005/06 when we won 10 on the bounce in the league. The team was largely unchanged during that run. Coincidence? Maybe. But it never did tour great teams of yesteryear any harm did it?

[El Jefecito]

I believe it's a factor. Then again I'm just another know nothing **** fan.

When I see us play I see 11 players who aren't combining with each other, most of them are out of form, and we don't move it and pass it like a proper team. It looks disjointed.

Thinking back to 2005/06 when we won 10 on the bounce in the league. The team was largely unchanged during that run. Coincidence? Maybe. But it never did tour great teams of yesteryear any harm did it?

I can buy into that, it just seems like a sell out when people don't say it's contributory, but that it is the only reason.

To be perfectly honest, so many players are new, that I would have thought it would have taken them a while to adapt anyway. Maybe it'll take a month longer due to rotation, but the benefits in the long term will be worth it.