Modern Day Strikers - What if anything has changed?

[Shaggy]

Seems to work for RVN...

Definitely a dying breed though, at the top level at least.

There are quite a few out and out poachers in the lower leagues, but they're few and far between at the top level.

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

Seems to work for RVN...

..if there ever was a fox in the box...
Did he ever score from outside?

[Shaggy]

..if there ever was a fox in the box...
Did he ever score from outside?

I remember him scoring his first (and I think only) goal for the Scum from outside the box, right at the back-end of his career there.

[Howard_lfc]

Not much has changed IMO. You can have all the attibutes in the world but if you dont hit the back of the net on a regular basis then you're history.

[paulcooper4]

Having a discussion in the boozer yesterday about modern day strikers in the premiership and how they compare against a teams striker in the 80's and 90's and we could not think of a modern day striker that betters them.

Liverpool - Rush v Torres ... Rush
Everton - Sharpe v Johnson .... Sharpe
Man Utd - Hughes v Rooney .... Hughes
Arsenal - Wright v Van Persie …. Wright
Chelsea – Dixon v Drogba … Dixon

The point I am trying to make is: Has the modern day striker changed or it is just historical achievements made by the older strikers that perceive a change in the modern day striker?

Not convinced

Surely you are having a ****in laugh?

[Dan]

I remember him scoring his first (and I think only) goal for the Scum from outside the box, right at the back-end of his career there.

Against Charlton from about 2 yards outside the box.

[fred_plasticine]

Seems to work for RVN...

he actually does quite a bit more than simple that.

[bazza76]

Having a discussion in the boozer yesterday about modern day strikers in the premiership and how they compare against a teams striker in the 80's and 90's and we could not think of a modern day striker that betters them.

Liverpool - Rush v Torres ... Rush
Everton - Sharpe v Johnson .... Sharpe
Man Utd - Hughes v Rooney .... Hughes
Arsenal - Wright v Van Persie …. Wright
Chelsea – Dixon v Drogba … Dixon

The point I am trying to make is: Has the modern day striker changed or it is just historical achievements made by the older strikers that perceive a change in the modern day striker?

Picking Hughes over Rooney? Rooney every time for me.
Drogba over Dixon too, could have also said, Thiery Henry or Wright, I know who I would be picking.

[Nic83]

Generally more Athletic these days with ne training regimes, more time in the gym etc etc

[machiavelli]

Liverpool - Rush v Torres ... Rush Agree, but ask again in two years
Everton - Sharpe v Johnson .... SharpeAgree
Man Utd - Hughes v Rooney .... Hughes Disagree
Arsenal - Wright v Van Persie …. Wright tough one...but i think Van Persie could become a true great
Chelsea – Dixon v Drogba … DixonDrogba every time

[enema of the state]

Liverpool - Rush v Torres ... Rush

by a country 'effin mile

Everton - Sharpe v Johnson .... Sharpe

sharpe a clear winner

Man Utd - Hughes v Rooney .... Hughes

rooney a clear winner

Arsenal - Wright v Van Persie …. Wright

not in any way comparable as one is an out and out striker and one an attacking midfielder

Chelsea – Dixon v Drogba … Dixon

FFS drogba is so much better than dixon its laughable that anyone thought this was a topic worthy of discussion. how old were you and your mates in the early 80's kerfuffle?

[enema of the state]

I was having a similar discussion with a mate earlier.

I was trying to think of a top class 'fox in the box' type striker and I couldnt really think of one that I would consider a good purchase.

The modern day striker has to be able to do it all pretty much to be considered top draw.

miroslav klose

ruud van nistlerooy

phillipo inzaghi

[enema of the state]

defenders are far more mobile these days, lurking about in the box isn't enough anymore.

is correct

but it goes far beyond that. players (and people generally) are physically bigger, stronger and faster with greater endurance - the pitch, the ball and the goals are the same size. striking got harder since the days of rush

[enema of the state]

See, I think this is the reason also. I listed the teams current striker against the older ones to see what reaction there was.

If you change the striker to recent best V old is becomes harder to gauge who was better, Why ?, is it just the the recent best is more clearly remembered ? Has anything changed in the modern striker at all ?

Rush v Fowler .. Tough
Hughes v Van Nistlerooy ... Tight
Wright v Henry ... Argumentive

totally diagree - if you look at my view, there is a clear mixture of old and new among the winners of the compariosons

as for these 3, i think there are also clear winners in rush (so far better a player than fowler that the comparison belongs in the drogba-dixon category), van horsehead and henry - again a mixture of old and modern.

form is temporary CLASS is permenant

[enema of the state]

Not much has changed IMO. You can have all the attibutes in the world but if you dont hit the back of the net on a regular basis then you're history.

thats true in principle but you need to be stronger, technically better and more athletic than in the past to ever get the chance. theres nowhere near the space of even 20 years ago. players tire far less than back then. someone with excellent technique but minimal athleticism (eg: fowler) just cant cut it at lfc's level