New stadium update...

[rushscored4]

The real shame here is that we were supposed to be going for approx 76,000 in the long term, if this is correct we are going for 70,000 with no chance of expansion.
Very suprised the papers haven't got hold of this as well, do you know when it will be announced/leaked RS4?

Although I trust RS4 100% and know his source has been spot on before I can't help but think we will still build the HKS designas if something else was to be built the papers and other forums would have info by now.

It was hidden away in an article one of the Sunday papers last week (there's a link further up the thread which I can't be bothered to find). The main reason it hasn't received any more publicity is probably because the meetings between G & H and AFL have obviously been confidential. It wouldn't surprise me if more comes out in the next few days as the Yanks are over here.

There's no reason for my mate to make up having all the plans, etc, in AFL's boardroom and I've only passed on the information in good faith. Like I've said many times before, I hope you do think I've been talking bollocks and we still go with the HKS design!

[sonsofthedesert]

There's no reason for my mate to make up having all the plans, etc, in AFL's boardroom and I've only passed on the information in good faith. Like I've said many times before, I hope you do think I've been talking bollocks and we still go with the HKS design!

Love to think that mate but you have been spot on in the past.

[Craig_H]

So...is it built yet?

[dom9]

Not quite

[Rashid]

Our New Stadium Not Going Ahead?

Dave Usher says the new stadium has been scrapped due to cost.

http://72.232.233.42/~tlw/forum/showthread.php?t=54158

I hope this isn't true.

[Jayesh87]

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=43785

[Shaggy]

Looks like Mr Usher's been reading Est.

[Rashid]

Sorry about that mate, thanks for that.

[Jayesh87]

Looks like Mr Usher's been reading Est.

Exactly what i thought!

[Rashid]

He hasn't had a computer in ages, I doubt he got it here.. he heard it later than EST though! Good work.

[Jayesh87]

He hasn't had a computer in ages, I doubt he got it here.. he heard it later than EST though! Good work.

He is always second ehrn it comes to news....He is always confirming things that other people have posted first.

Good links when it come to academy stuff though.

imo of corse.

[Shaggy]

Dunno if this has been posted...


Sir Alex Ferguson gives his backing to Rafael Benitez as Anfield owners ride into town

Oliver Kay

As he held court in an upstairs room in Manchester United’s youth academy building yesterday lunchtime, Sir Alex Ferguson shook his head and smiled in amazement – or was it amusement – when reminded that it was 17 years since Liverpool were champions of England. Some of the youngsters training on the indoor pitch below were barely a twinkle in their father’s eye in 1990, a year that Ferguson spent wondering if United would ever escape the enormous shadow cast from the other end of the East Lancs Road.

The landscape of English football has changed dramatically over those 17 years. What was once Football League division one is now the Barclays Premier League, a polyglot of Americans, Russians, Icelanders and Thais – and that is just the clubs’ owners. It is the most glamorous league in the world and, for all the success of Arsenal and Chelsea, Ferguson has little doubt that the North West giants of Liverpool and United remain the jewels in its crown. If, as is widely claimed, more than a billion people will watch what has been termed “Grand Slam Sunday”, it is fair to assume that the main event will be the one that kicks off first, at Anfield at 1.30pm, rather than Arsenal’s meeting with Chelsea at 4pm.

The new era has not always been kind to Liverpool, a club who began the 1990s with the homespun philosophy of a cosy but richly successful local store and ended it alarmed by the sight of the corporate monolith that was emerging at Old Trafford.

The Merseyside club were dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. The transition has been difficult, a torturous investment saga followed by what has been a troubled first year under the ownership of the two American tycoons, Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr, who arrived at Anfield like white knights in February.

Hicks and Gillett are back on Merseyside this weekend and it says much about the present difficulties at the club that their overdue peace summit with Rafael BenÍtez, the manager, is no longer top of the agenda. The word from Anfield over the past 48 hours has been that the club’s proposed move to a new stadium on Stanley Park is on the rocks again. With the global credit crunch forcing a rethink over their plan to take the club £500 million into debt, Gillett and Hicks are being forced to reconsider the jaw-dropping plans that they revealed in July. A minimum 60,000 capacity is a must, but the club are now looking to scale down those designs.

The growing sense of chaos at Anfield is a source of mild bemusement to Ferguson, particularly the power struggle between BenÍtez and the owners. The most impressive Liverpool manager of recent times has been slapped down in public by Hicks and can expect to be admonished in private when he meets them after tomorrow’s game, with a warning that his position will be untenable unless he starts to show more respect. Ferguson’s experience of the American way, under the Glazer family, has been nothing like so chastening.

“I can’t understand it,” Ferguson said of the political turmoil at Anfield. “All of a sudden you read about a supposed dispute between Rafa and his directors. You don’t understand it when you see the record Rafa has got. You say to yourself: ‘Where has that come from?’ There is obviously some undercurrent of a dispute somewhere along the line, but with Rafa’s record it is strange and it will be disappointing to him.”

There is no such problem at Old Trafford; the Glazers, reviled as they may remain by many United supporters, simply let Ferguson get on with it. “This club is run well,” he said. “I have no issues at all. David Gill deals with the owners, the Glazer family, and I’m happy with that. David is without question the best chief executive we have ever had. It’s quite an easy situation. He lets me know what is happening. They come over periodically. I am happy with that.”

With BenÍtez presiding over a steady improvement during the course of his four years at Anfield, Ferguson has little doubt that the Merseyside club are ready to compete with United, Arsenal and possibly Chelsea for this season’s title.

Winning another title has assumed even greater importance to Ferguson in the autumn of his career. When he arrived at Old Trafford, in November 1986, Liverpool had won their sixteenth title months earlier, whereas United had gone 19 years since their previous title success, their seventh. He recalled yesterday how he had vowed to himself “not to let it get to 25 years”, but it did. By the time he finally led United to their holy grail in 1993, Liverpool had won the title 18 times.

Now in the autumn of his career, Ferguson has set himself a new target, surpassing – or at least equalling – Liverpool’s total of 18 titles before he retires. That will take some doing, given that he is 66 a fortnight tomorrow, but nothing would give him greater satisfaction than “knocking them off their f***ing perch”, as he once so quaintly put it.

On Merseyside, though, the greater concern is that Liverpool are in danger of doing that themselves by driving out BenÍtez. The idea of the Anfield club taking advice from Ferguson would once have been laughable, but if Gillett and Hicks allow BenÍtez to manage, as the Scot is allowed to at Old Trafford, Liverpool might just get the chance to extend that lead, rather than see it wiped out altogether.

[Shaggy]

Looks like RAWK and other LFC forums have only just clocked this - we've about 200 ****ing guests browsing in here and, given that a thread about this, with a link to this thread, has just appeared on RAWK then it's a safe bet.

It's just gonna snowball now. Just amazed it's taken everyone so long.

[Dan]

Looks like RAWK and other LFC forums have only just clocked this - we've about 200 ****ing guests browsing in here and, given that a thread about this, with a link to this thread, has just appeared on RAWK then it's a safe bet.

It's just gonna snowball now. Just amazed it's taken everyone so long.

Yeah, nice one Iain, tell the whole ****in' world

[Shaggy]

Yeah, nice one Iain, tell the whole ****in' world

Iain