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Originally posted by Steve101 View PostWell if your going to listen and believe anything you hear on Talksport you really are foolish in the extreme. Note the word rumor. The media report these rumors and dress it up as fact, lazy journalism of the worst kind. Why not wait for something from the clubs owners and Rafa before you condem them so abuseivly? So far all I see is a team playing superbly well, and great plans for the future, including a new stadium. now until I hear otherwise OFFICIALY, I'll save my rantings and suggest we all do the same.
But do you think that the club havn't heard these rumours?They must know that the fans are pretty worried about all of this uncertainty and owe it to us to tell us the truth.
I really can't believe all of this **** off the field when we have got the best team we have had for 20 years and are playing the best football we have played since we last won the league with the best manager since king kenny and it's all in doubt.
Our rivals must be counting there blessings that non footballing issues threaten to totally derail our season.-----------------------------------------------
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
Bill Shankly.
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As i said yesterday I don't care if they ditch the current stadium plans if the altnative plans give us a well built 70k capacity stadium at a cheaper cost. Do we really want to stradle the club with 500 million in debt for a stadium which was meant to cost 300 million? Do we want another wembley fiasco? For the record though I do not trust H&G at all, with each passing day I dislike them more and fear for the longterm future of the club, the team and the manager with them at the helm. They clear;y are not interested in the team just the money they can make from it. We are a toy to them, a plaything that they could get bored with at any time!!Dare we believe
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Originally posted by blacky View PostAs i said yesterday I don't care if they ditch the current stadium plans if the altnative plans give us a well built 70k capacity stadium at a cheaper cost. Do we really want to stradle the club with 500 million in debt for a stadium which was meant to cost 300 million? Do we want another wembley fiasco? For the record though I do not trust H&G at all, with each passing day I dislike them more and fear for the longterm future of the club, the team and the manager with them at the helm. They clear;y are not interested in the team just the money they can make from it. We are a toy to them, a plaything that they could get bored with at any time!!
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that's the real shame of all of thisOriginally posted by kop-al-74 View Post
But do you think that the club havn't heard these rumours?They must know that the fans are pretty worried about all of this uncertainty and owe it to us to tell us the truth.
I really can't believe all of this **** off the field when we have got the best team we have had for 20 years and are playing the best football we have played since we last won the league with the best manager since king kenny and it's all in doubt.
Our rivals must be counting there blessings that non footballing issues threaten to totally derail our season.
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I wonder if all this critical analysis actually helps. I mean when I read these threads I think "****ing yanks, ruining my club, *******s, I hate them"
But when I go to the kitchen to make a cuppa the facts at present are as follows - Rafa is boss, Liverpool are challenging on all fronts, we are getting a great new stadium, we are the best club in the world.
And then things dont seem so bad.
Sometimes I think we should actually get the facts then decide on what to do.
Its a tough thing to do though as its a subject close to all of our hearts.
One thing is for sure, I expected far better publicity from 2 succesful Americans, so far its been nothing short of disgraceful, I thought the yanks prided themselves on great P.R?!
RAFA 
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They clear;y are not interested in the team just the money they can make from it. We are a toy to them, a plaything that they could get bored with at any time!!......clearly? that really makes no sense at all. Making money from football with a £500 loan/debt?? not caring if the club is sccessful or not? doeant add up, and youe statement smacks of bandagon jumping. as ive said before, when and iff these things come to pass thenis the time to wail and moan, and by all means keep making the club aware hat were watching them, but dont press the panic button yet.
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Originally posted by Steve101 View PostThey clear;y are not interested in the team just the money they can make from it. We are a toy to them, a plaything that they could get bored with at any time!!......clearly? that really makes no sense at all. Making money from football with a £500 loan/debt?? not caring if the club is sccessful or not? doeant add up, and youe statement smacks of bandagon jumping. as ive said before, when and iff these things come to pass thenis the time to wail and moan, and by all means keep making the club aware hat were watching them, but dont press the panic button yet.
Are you for real? bandwagon jumping? it's one thing I never do. This 500 million loan is going to be against the club with massive repayments each year for sure but if you think they are not making money from us you are naive. No-ones moaning. This is a discussion forum and we are airing certain misgivings we have!!Dare we believe
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Originally posted by blacky View PostAre you for real? bandwagon jumping? it's one thing I never do. This 500 million loan is going to be against the club with massive repayments each year for sure but if you think they are not making money from us you are naive. No-ones moaning. This is a discussion forum and we are airing certain misgivings we have!!
people calling anyone and everyone connected with the club ****wits and the like isnt exactly airing 'certain misgivings' now is it? there are facts and there are rumors, and it would appear that the rumors are rumors are winning at the moment. 500million agaisnt the club? are you sure? as i say, facts and rumors..............
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Let's just wait and see so.Originally posted by Steve101 View Postpeople calling anyone and everyone connected with the club ****wits and the like isnt exactly airing 'certain misgivings' now is it? there are facts and there are rumors, and it would appear that the rumors are rumors are winning at the moment. 500million agaisnt the club? are you sure? as i say, facts and rumors..............Dare we believe
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Originally posted by Steve101 View PostThey clear;y are not interested in the team just the money they can make from it. We are a toy to them, a plaything that they could get bored with at any time!!......clearly? that really makes no sense at all. Making money from football with a £500 loan/debt?? not caring if the club is sccessful or not? doeant add up, and youe statement smacks of bandagon jumping. as ive said before, when and iff these things come to pass thenis the time to wail and moan, and by all means keep making the club aware hat were watching them, but dont press the panic button yet.
I think they are interested in the team because without a half decent team there will be no money.
However as you say the money is what drives them as they are certainly no philanthropists.
As I recall in one of his early interviews Hicks admitted that it was the revenue streams which persuaded him to get involved in the first place.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they were pelted when they came to Anfield if they sacked Rafa and backed down on the best stadium in the world and other promises of snoogy doggy etc.
Let's hope they find their senses. And that includes Parry.--== Because the gang and the government is no different ==--
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